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Part of the problem though is that out-group exclusion is baked in, and if you wrap that up in anything important, it gets toxic even if the dogma is kinda loose. I mean, why aren't UU churches absolutely bursting at the seams? In part, it's because they refuse to reject anyone.
Yeah and weirdly that's about the only thing I respect about Catholics- they actually can and do tell mofos "you aint Catholic, those aint Catholic beliefs" so they can kind of 'police their own'. Whereas I can say I'm a Baptist Zoroastrian that believes Jesus was actually Zeus and nobody can tell me that's not a Baptist belief. Not that I think Catholic dogma makes an sense on its own but at least they don't allow any old shmuck to fork it.
But yeah I don't think there's a way to keep the secular community and drop the religious tribalism, at least not without a Moonhaven style guided cultural reboot but to me that's less plausible than Jesus actually being Zeus.
You and I know VERY different Baptists, LOL.
I'm not saying there aren't Baptists that wouldn't deck me for saying it out loud, but there's no global Baptist authority to tell me my ideas aren't Baptist ideas.
The baptist magisterium is a mob unlike the Catholic magisterium which is much closer to the mob
Church of England has entered the Chat
Fair, though it did take an actual King to make that happen.
Catholic dogma is usually quite sensical if you accept their frame of thinking. It’s just a big if. They’ve been refining it for millennia