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Having a smartphone or social media access by themselves are not an issue. Having unrestricted access to a smartphone as a young child is a serious issue, both in terms of the amount of time they potentially spend on it and the content they may come across.
I can't see a benefit of a 5 year old having a smart phone at all
Hard agree here, I couldn't imagine my 6 yo having a smartphone or tablet. When we have screen time, we watch TV, movies, or play video games together.
My kids don't, but some neighbor kids have them as basic gps/texting for their parents.
Gps to know where they are, and texting to go home for dinner. I've never seen them browsing or calling.
My grandma used to lock the door and tell my dad to come home at dinner back in St. Louis suburbs in the 70's. You gotta let kids roam and be free to an extent.
Yeah I spent probably 80% of my childhood out of the house around the neighborhood, at the park, playing with random kids who happened to be around, exploring, riding bikes, walking around town, finding cool new spots in the woods, finding old playing cards with pictures of risqué ladies stashed in a tree somewhere. No direct adult supervision.
The rule was to be back by dinner, or to call from a friend’s house with a good reason for being late.
I frankly think the world is a lot safer now than it was then, so it’s really sad that this isn’t as common in the US anymore.
Even i grew up that way 20 years ago. My parents are super chill and outgoing so they are always friends with everyone in the neighborhood. They knew who we liked to play with and where we likely were so they only had to make a couple calls to get us home in an emergency. Even when i finally got a cell phone and a car o can't think of too many times my parents had to call to see where i was and demand me to come home.
Like a little 5 year old? That's wild to me
Well you dont need a smartphone for that. Plenty of "dumb phones" and senior citizens phones on the market to use for that purpose. Or hell, un-dust the old Nokia.
Social media is provably harmful to children, imo it should be completely cut off until at least age 12 or 13
I agree with you. It's certainly possible, and quite easy, to give a young child a smartphone or tablet with restricted access to everything but a few games and YouTube kids and, as long as you keep an eye on things to make sure that YouTube Kids hasn't fucked up and is showing adult material (I don't think that's happened in quite a long time), it just becomes "interactive device + TV" which is basically what kids have had for decades as separate things. This just combines them and makes them portable.
I would never trust YouTube kids ever. If its not an entirely separate platform it is not worth it with YouTube.
Something like Netflix is way more trustable since they control their content. Well, until they start adding ai generated crap and ads, then its goodbye Netflix too.
Removing the YouTube app but not the Netflix app would be the option in that case. It's still not an argument against them having them at all.
I gave my kids flip phones until they were teenagers. They could still communicate if needed, but no social media or things. They were encouraged to go outside and actually do things with friends. They're all socially well adjusted and successful adults now.
Totally on the same page. My 6 year old son and I watch YouTube together sometimes, because there's lots of great content on there, both for entertainment and education. But he always sees the recommended videos and wants to watch something with a clickbait thumbnail next. Left his own devices, he'd quickly end up in a bad place unintentionally
I assume you also won't let them watch non-educational TV or play non-educational video games until they're at least 10 as well, yes?
I agree it's all about access and boundries.
My 2yo neice has a designated smartphone, but she only gets it for short periods. My sister picks the app and locks the phone so that the app cant be exited. For things like going out to dinner, it's incredibly useful & I don't think damaging.
All she watches is miss rachel, lol maybe some bluey or aquarium feeds.
I think her having a phone is mostly useful so that there is one to give her without worrying about your nice expensive device getting grubby kid hands all over it.