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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s always time. The world saving policy makers treat poor person time as if it’s an infinite, free resource.

Public transportation turns a 10 minute trip into a 1 hour trip. Aside from that, no problem.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Bingo! Absolutely.

Once you add time to the equation everything falls apart.

I got so frustrated at my old blue collar job I gave it up earlier this year. City planners are dicking over drivers engineering intentional congestion as a means of traffic "calming." I averaged 3 mph on a major road. I lost too much money between job sites.

One of my old customers called up and i got everything squared away anyways. According to Google maps, here is my trip I took today:

Notice it's not possible to make a repair and hit a hardware store under 50 miles with public transport.

This is reality. Today. My day. And I get soooo much shit for pointing it out.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The solution isn't making driving easier, it's making the alternatives superior. If public transportation is slower than driving, then that is a policy failure.

And in a world where there are viable alternatives to driving, people that do need to drive will get around faster, not slower.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You missed the blue collar part. I use a van full of tools for my previous employment. Tools that are not allowed on public transport.

I walk on a bus with chainsaws (I used 2 today) I'm going to have an interview with some cops.

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, but ideally only people who genuinely need to use cars do so, which would include situations like yours. But not:

  • Commutes to office jobs
  • Errands that people could easily walk or cycle to if it was safe and convenient
  • Visits to friends and family
  • Groceries, restaurants, etc
  • Traveling to most towns and cities

In that world, there would be a lot less traffic and you would get to your job a lot quicker. And the rest of us won't be tethered to an expensive object that is only required because of bad government policy. But I get that during that transition there will be some teething pains, and sometimes governments will get it wrong, and it's unfortunate that it has affected you. Ultimately though, it's very much a necessary change.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Ideally those who “genuinely” need a car can prove it by endeavoring to get a car.

I hope that “genuine need” isn’t the purview of somebody else, who gets to decide what’s a valuable use of the road or not.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

Your career is a small price to pay for making someone else’s life easier.

You gotta remember those government decisions, that let you run your own tool-using business without permission from the car czar, are bad policy that’s ruining life for people tethered to their cars.

Don’t worry though: your car situation would be approved. It’s all the other people who’d be forced to take the bus. Not you, comrade.

Of course you’d be able to keep your career after our great change has happened. For now, remember that your career is a sacrifice … the birth pains of our brave new world of buses.

Thank you for your cooperation. As soon as the revolution is complete you may resume your work in complete freedom.

/s

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago

The solution isn't making driving harder; it's making the alternatives superior

Isn’t this what you mean? Instead of using the stick, they should be using the carrot. Instead of making the current choice more painful, make the new choice more desirable. That way we can move forward into the future while actually increasing the amount of utility we get from our decisions.

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Google maps won't give you a route at all in public transit if you include multiple stops. I think generally, for public transit, you either have to use google maps to extensively look up and plan your own route, or you have to use a different app. There's one just called "transit", which I think people generally use, has good integration, and sometimes local agencies have their own app or will use a different one, there's a handful of generalized ones.

But yeah, in any case. Probably, Google should be better about that.

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Ah thanks. That makes sense. I agree Google should be better about that.

If I add up individual segments I get around 8 hours. I haven't compared that to schedules though. I'll let it be.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

I have absolutely suspected that they’re trying to strong arm the car experience into sucking. They just don’t care what’s built on top of the things they’re knocking down.