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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 94 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

This meme was made by someone who didn’t serve in the military. Many times did I salute someone who i shouldn’t have because their rank insignia was too small to see at a distance or too similar to another branch’s rank insignia. Having it everywhere makes sense.

And the rank on the back? Genius. I’d know that person was a captain so i could sneak off to buffer time while they weren't looking as opposed to having to go in front of them to rank check for 21st century uniforms.

[–] sickhack@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is how you get all your officers killed in the battlefield.

Colonial sharpshooters were already excellent at picking off Redcoat officers in 1774.

Then both Union and Confederate officers were picked off at a high rate. Look at how garish Grant’s uniform is compared to Stormin’ Norman.

Finally we learned. WW2 officers had ornamentations removed or covered, even far from the battlefield. When the Indianapolis was hit, no one could locate Admiral Spruance. They thought he might have died. Nope, there was a guy wearing just khakis and no ornamentation helping fight the fires— turned out it was Spruance. No one recognized him because he only recently transferred his flag over.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Field uniforms are different than dress uniforms. This is a dress uniform and it is used to show off your accomplishments and affiliations. Field uniforms would be more like Major Hayes from Enterprise. His uniform is drab and you can't easily tell the difference between him and his subordinates.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Except this is what she wears in the field. Afaik, we haven't seen 32nd century skants yet

[–] teft@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

That's probably more to do with budgetary reasons. Why make two sets of clothes for something most people won't notice or care about?

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This isn't the uniform they would wear for actual boots on the ground warfare. These people are the equivalent to the navy not the army or marines. Snipers arent picking Admirals off regularly on their own ships. If they went "ashore" it would make sense to have different uniforms unless they were knowingly doing a diplomatic mission on that particular plant at that time. Then you wear a dress uniform. There's a reason dress uniforms look different from ACUs.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

Snipers arent picking Admirals off regularly on their own ships.

Nelson has ~~left the chat~~ been shot by a tailor.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Helps they're on a ship, never really on a battlefield

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why do militaries have such a respect fetish anyway?

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because the chain of command needs to be embedded enough into your psyche to override your fight/flight response. Same reason we spend our entire careers in the military practicing war. When it's real, you can't freeze up or get flustered...your job also has to be so well practiced that you can do it instinctively, because when you're getting shot at, instinct is sometimes all you've got left.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That and because it used to be a literal class divide and the officers were genetically better than you and chosen by Gawd, you peasant filth, get back in the spear line.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago

I don't know if I should upvote you because they actually act like this or downvote because you reminded me of having to deal with it, even as a civilian.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My grandfather was in a WWI German prison camp as a child (his father was British and all British subjects in the UK were put in prison camps when the war broke out). It was largely autonomous, and when POWs started arriving, the enlisted acted as indentured servants to the officers.

Yes, WWI not WWII. I'm old.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

So you're saying every single other Star Trek uniform sucked.

(Although I would argue that rank on the uniform sleeve like in TOS would work for your purposes most of the time.)