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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Alright. You make good points. I agree with you. However there is a problem. Alex jones is a nutjob with no redeeming qualities. He has a base, and called on his base to blockade his house to prevent law officials from repossesing his house, his infowars platform, and anything else worth any monetary currency. Notice, I didn't say "value" because let's face it. It's alex jones. What value could there possibly be with him.

Trump did the same thing with J6. Gets his base in a frenzy to do his dirty work, and uses them to attempt a coup. I fully believe the vast majority actually there on J6 didn't even know thats what it was. They didn't know where were attempting a coup. But they were fully prepared to follow daddy oranges commands.

My point is, yes we CAN take this country back from the rich. But we will have to fight a second civil war to do so. This civil war won't be about racism. It will be 100% a class war. And the rich will 100% throw every brainwashed moron they can find into the front lines to die to protect their wealth.

So if we want to take the country back, we're going to need to fight. Quite frankly, I'm looking forward to it. Either I die and stop suffering in poverty, or I get a better life. When you push the public down to the point that they have nothing to lose, don't be surprised when death doesn't scare them.

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're a Russian trying to fuck with us, fuck off.

Assuming you're a legit US citizen: try talking to your fucking neighbors before you start to talk about shooting.

Everyone on the Internet seems like they're arguing with strawmen.

Violence only in response to violence. We want to solve this without bloodshed. Only those who wish our country harm wish for a civil war.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

All rights are won through violence

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

All rights are won through diversity of tactics. Some of the most effective campaigns for gay rights came from our moms just talking to people about what it was like to have gay kids. Add that to violently forcing the state to stop being so brutal in their oppression of us and years-decades of working with and within the medical and legal establishments to hamper homophobia in those realms.

You get similar shit elsewhere. Eco-terrorism has had less explicit gains than environmental lawyers, but without the militants the assailants to our planet just do it mid lawsuit and pay the fine later. The black American civil rights movement had pacifists and militants.

Force alone doesn’t create a movement, just a war if you’re lucky enough to get the people to support you.

[–] red@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago

This rhetoric makes me sad.

History is filled to the brim with rights won NOT through violence. What you say is objectively wrong, though it caters to anyone suspectible to populism.