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[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 22 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Water isn’t wet. Wetness is a property that occurs when a liquid adheres to a solid surface due to cohesive and adhesive forces. Water molecules exhibit hydrogen bonding, creating a network, but they themselves aren’t ‘wet’ until they interact with another material.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: water is wet because it is the wet.

A powerful example of such a scenario is this quote from the philosopher, Batman:
"I am vengeance! I am the night! I.am.BATMAN!"

What this proves is shut up, water is wet. 😡

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

If there is water, and no one is around to be wet… is it still wet?

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's all just agree that water is moist. Oceans of moisture.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] towerful@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

The pope is jealous

[–] just_ducky_in_NH@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not everyone has a sense of humor.

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

We still love you. Just keep being you.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you’re saying wet is water.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. It is the essence of wetness.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 2 points 3 months ago

It’s essential.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Rain is wet, it is not adhered to a solid surface. The middle of the ocean is wet even if there's no solid surface near by.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it only wet after it touches you? You can anticipate it's wet, but the state would exist after contact.

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Aren't the molecules touching other molecules wet if it involves touch?

An individual h2o molecule can't be wet, but if two of them are touching, they are both wet.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wet to the touch, not to each other. It changes the property of something else to make it wet.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A wall can be wet, it doesn't require a person to touch the wall before it can be called wet. So the sense of touch is not required for something to be wet.

It changes the property of something else to make it wet.

If the wall was dry and I add water to it I have changed this property, if the wall is already wet and I add water to it I have changed nothing. Therefore if I add water to something and do not change its properties then it was already wet in the first place.
If adding water to water does not change its properties then the water was already wet in the first place.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As I said, it changes the property of something else, a person does not need to be involved.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As I said, if adding water to water doesn't change the property, then the water was already wet.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That doesn't make sense, it changes other things.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How would you know if it was wet if you’re not around

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound?

I thought we were talking about science, not philosophy.
How do we know the properties of black holes, distract stars, and the early universe if we're not in them?

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So a person doesn't have to be physically present and interacting with something in order to know the physical properties of it.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it might be wet somewhere. But I am not there, and I cannot know unless I am there to experience the essence of wetness.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to put much faith into an argument on "what is wet" from someone who isn't sure if a rock on the bottom of a pond is wet unless they reach in and touch it.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 0 points 3 months ago

I’m not going to allow my eyes to become wet over someone who doesn’t understand that everything has been a joke.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So you're telling me that water makes things wet. That makes it wet as a verb, so flatter us in fact wet all the time

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

I am very dry, even when wet.

[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am of the opinion that a single molecule of water is not wet but since water makes other things wet... A molecule of water would make the surrounding molecules of water wet. Therefore pretty much any example you can give of water is wet unless you mean just a single molecule of water separated from anything else.

[–] cynthorpe@discuss.online 1 points 3 months ago

I’m going for a swim in the hydrogen bond.