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Police opened fire on a subway platform in Brooklyn during a confrontation with an alleged fare-beater, striking the man cops said was armed with a knife, two straphangers caught in the fray, and one of the firing officers, NYPD officials said Sunday.

One of those two passengers hit by the cops' bullets, a 49-year-old man, was hospitalized in critical condition after he was hit struck in the head, according to the NYPD.

The two officers who opened fire were assigned to patrol the Sutter Avenue subway stop in the 73rd precinct when they spotted a man skip the station turnstile and walk through an open gate toward the train platform, Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey explained at an evening press conference from Brookdale Hospital.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 234 points 3 days ago (47 children)

Ahh yes. Nothing like killing a perp and a few bystanders for a few dollars' worth of fare. USA! USA!

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I know it’s like that by headline, but they repeatedly tried to subdue him and eventually he charged at them with a knife after having said “I’ll kill you”. I don’t know I would hesitate to stop him without my gun if he suddenly ran at me with a knife. I’m just thinking survival, instinctively, and not about bystanders around me in that moment.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I’m just thinking survival, instinctively, and not about bystanders around me in that moment.

Kind of fair point for yourself.

However I expect more of a trained professional who has repeated firarms training. They should be sesitized to controlling their direction of fire even in an emergency.

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

That's not even the point. The training should have taught them how to de-escalate the situation, or even let it go. They transformed a 3$ fare skipped into a massacre, how's that normal?

It's 3$, if he has a knife, just let him go, it's not worth the risk. You'll track him down later and get him without killing him, passerbys and other cops.

You don't need to drop a nuke because there's a pickpocketer somewhere in the city

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago

It really is bizarre how many people seem to just accept lower standards for police than for random Joe gun owner off the street. It’s not confusing though; it’s just another facet of the great team sport of society for many people.

If we’re supposed to value and respect our police, maybe we should actually expect good things from them!

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

If a guy doesn't pay $3, has a knife and threatens the police -> mental problem. The answer isn't shooting but handling the situation and deescalating.

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Ok, so these people are too incompetent to win a 4v1 against an untrained opponent? Is this better somehow?

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