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A new law in Texas requires convicted drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a child’s parent or guardian, according to House Bill 393.

The law, which went into effect Friday, says those convicted of intoxication manslaughter must pay restitution. The offender will be expected to make those payments until the child is 18 or until the child graduates from high school, “whichever is later,” the legislation says.

Intoxication manslaughter is defined by state law as a person operating “a motor vehicle in a public place, operates an aircraft, a watercraft, or an amusement ride, or assembles a mobile amusement ride; and is intoxicated and by reason of that intoxication causes the death of another by accident or mistake.”

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[–] Bipta@kbin.social 102 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This just seems like theater. What if you disable the parents such that they can't support their kid? You slip through?

[–] gravalicious@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's theater. People go to prison for intoxication manslaughter. How are they making money to pay for child support? What kind of job will they really get after getting out of prison for essentially murder?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A cynical person might even say this is an attempt by the state and insurance companies to justify not having any sort of security net for victims' families. If one person can be held financially responsible for the kids, why should anyone else have to step in?

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is exactly what it is, aimed at drunk drivers first because everyone will be on board with that demographic first. Then it will be expanded over time.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -- H.L. Mencken

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Like how your insurance doesn't work if you get hurt on the job?

[–] BanjoShepard@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, why just drunk driving? Why not you pay child support for murder?

[–] flipht@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because if you get convicted of murder, you go to jail for a long period of time and never really make much money again, even if you get out.

Their child support payments would be like 16.53 per month.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Then they pay it.

[–] bluGill@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Murder is not near the problem of driving. Few people murder, but many have accidents.

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Moving from A to B can still be a good thing to do, even if there are some remaining problems at B.

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Better something than nothing, we can improve on something

[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're completely right. People just want to keep their blinders on and hate on this because it's Texas. They don't want to think critically and acknowledge a state that often does the wrong thing can also do the right thing.

I guarantee there wouldn't be as many critical comments if this were New York or California.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fucking hate Texas and I came here to support this move. (Most) People are less shitty than you suggest.

[–] bhmnscmm@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, you're right. It's just disheartening how many people view this as a bad thing even though it's clearly a step in the right direction.

I'm sure the people that are against this are much more likely to voice their opinions than those that support it.

[–] Thewheeeeeeeeeel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In your metaphor b is closer to c than a so it's a good thing. But if b is on a one way street to a cliff it doesn't make it a good thing to drive there.

[–] Pwrupdude@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If someone is unable to pay the restitution because they’re incarcerated, they’re expected to make payments no “later than the first anniversary of the date,” of their release, the law says.

From the article. So seems like they thought of that too

[–] Thewheeeeeeeeeel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So how long do you get for manslaughter in the us? 8 years? So at best the child gets support like 9 years later and only if the person manages to get a good enough job... Maybe the life of a child shouldn't be a lottery but just backed by the state

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

So you’re saying that people can just ignore debt imposed and tracked by the government?

[–] Bipta@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Are you replying to the right person?