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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Man who tf goes around enforcing these laws after a disaster. Imagine some wack ass old white guy ticketing people outside of the FEMA medical station for loitering.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can see you haven't interacted with many police in these areas. I wouldn't be surprised in the least by any of that behavior. The cops only protect and serve property, not people.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

I never once expressed disbelief.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Margaret Killjoy did a 2 part podcast about relief efforts in Asheville, and she mentioned that one FEMA worker she spoke to told her one of the biggest hurdles to actually getting people help was the fact that a lot of local rescue and aid efforts are first and foremost run by police and the military (and other local first responders, but in the US police generally outnumber these by a hideous ratio).

The worker mentioned that the frustrations mostly come because community and mutual aid are inherently horizontal - you tell me you need food, I have food, I share food, no strings. Police and military are taught to desire hierarchy and structure and order, they want "these people need aid first and then these people and then these" rather than "EVERYONE needs aid, and if we offer it freely people generally won't take advantage", which is usually the case actually. I can definitely see police going "well I know all these people just don't have homes anymore, but if we stop enforcing this law society will break down entirely".

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Rebecca Solnit gives examples of this going back over 100 years

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 month ago

Nah, it’ll be some 28 year old wannabe Punisher wearing Oakleys whose weekend activities include watching football and abusing his girlfriend.