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I've always been told that Hitler was a masterful public speaker; that his support can largely be explained by his compelling, if not mesmerizing hold on crowds. This narrative is not common, it's universal.

Sometimes I think this is emphasized over how much the crowds approved of the content of his speech.

How do native German speakers feel when they view footage of Hitler? Do you think the reputation is earned?

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[–] Onionguy@lemm.ee 131 points 4 days ago (7 children)

In school, we never just watched a Hitler speech and were asked "here, have a look, whatdaya think?" It is always, from the beginning, embedded in critical, solemn reminders to see it as the darkest chapter in history. We (at least in my school education) were taught how easily masses are manipulated by emotions, groupthink crowd dynamics and psychology. How strong and blinding tribalism can be.

So to answer your question, what do I, as a German whose grandfather fought in France for the bad guys feel when I see a Hitler speech?

Anger for people who lose their capacity for rational thinking and let themselves be blinded by emotions. Anger about rethoric. And a deep unsettling sense of dread, shame and sadness.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Any way you can bring some of those critical-thinking skills over here to the US, by chance?

In all sincerity, great comment.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the deepest of ironies, the Allies set Germany up post-war to do a far better job with their governing and constitution (yes, yes, nothing is perfect!) than the US can do with it’s own. Especially with the critical and analytical eye on its own history.

The US just keeps sweeping everything under the rug called “When America Was Great” while ignoring the parts that were racist, colonialist, etc.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

One of the rare instances of the Shock Doctrine leading to a positive outcome.

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