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OH YEAH THEYRE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW

Please do not remove mods, really sorry for the Google AMP link, but this is a "subscribers only" blocked article on CNN that for some reason AMP just straight up bypasses and opens fine.

Direct link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/10/us/jury-nullification-luigi-mangione-defense/index.html.

Edit 1: updated title, CNN changed it on me

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[–] Steve 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The jury makes a decision on both separately.
Charging with both gives the jury 2 options. If they don't think it was premeditated and planned enough to convict on 1st degree, they can choose to convict on 2nd degree instead.

If the prosecution only charged him with 1st degree, the jury wouldn't have any other option. And if acquitted on 1st, he couldn't be tried again under 2nd degree.

[–] knova@infosec.pub 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn’t the state have to present its case for each charge? Like wouldn’t presenting evidence and testimony to show its murder 1 undermine a murder 2 charge?

[–] Steve 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Typically the higher grades of the same charge incorporate all the elements of the grade below and then some. So if you can prove 1st degree to the jury, 2nd degree is a given.

Sometimes it is the case that different counts need to be proven individually.
In Trumps bribery case, they had to prove 34 instances of falsifying documents. "This is how this individual document was falsified." x34 times.

[–] Z3k3@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

So time/money saving excersize? Don't get 1st saves doing the whole circus again for 2nd

Thanks