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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 117 points 1 day ago (6 children)

does NOT even live in the jungle

Fwiw, that's definitely not a requirement. The King of Australia doesn't live in Australia, either.

[–] oo1@lemmings.world 2 points 23 hours ago

What about that Plantagenet dude?

According to Baldrick he lives in Australia and is no less legitimate a claim to be king of england than any of those bastards since Dick III. The fact that he hasn't raised an army and started any wars suggests he might be less of a dick than most of them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britain%27s_Real_Monarch

Oh - looks like he died, but maybe his offsping.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I didn't vote for him!

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

our government says differently

so does our leader

same as the mobsters in blue

he IS your king. you'd do well not to forget it.

edit: i feel like this came across mean, i just mean it in a radical 'let's fucking kill the powerful' typa tone. :3

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well I didn't vote for him.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah but our government is pathetic, fuck ‘em all really.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, it turns out that while strange women lying in ponds giving away swords may not be the basis for a system of government, conceited women fucking racist pricks is, in fact, a perfectly legal way to decide your head of state.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Oh king ey, very nice. And how'd you get that? By exploiting the workers. By hanging on to imperialist dogma that perpetuates the economic and social differences in our society. If there's ever going to be any real progress...

Dennis there's some lovely filth down here!

Also:

Listen. Strange women laying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also, jungles' original meaning is just "uninhibited." So vast plains counted, too.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Jungle

1776, "dense growth of trees and other tangled vegetation," such as that of some regions in India, from Hindi jangal "desert, forest, wasteland, uncultivated ground," from Sanskrit jangala-s "arid, sparsely grown with trees," a word of unknown origin.

Source: Etymonline

I can't tell if you meant to say "uninhibitated" or "uninhabited." I get the impression you meant the latter, which would be in line with the idea of "desert" or "wasteland."

Either way, the history of the word jungle reveals that its root might have applied to what we'd call today a savanna, which is where lions live. So, the title "King of the Jungle" could have made sense for lions at some point.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Actually the Indian Gir Lion does live in jungle/forest. As for the history of the word, the present meaning (forest) might've been used for longer by now (in India) than the old meaning.

And funnily enough, the Hindi word "sher" can mean either lion or tiger, although they do have a specific word for tiger, "bagh". And we do have the same title/phrase in Hindi which could mean either lion or tiger is the king of the jungle. I personally never thought it was the tiger because when I was a child, the Lion King had already been released.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

That's so interesting! I guess the meme is moot if the question is asked in Hindi, haha.

I get the connection with the Lion King also. Speaking of animation from childhood, I'm now remembering an episode of Rugrats where the phrase "King of the Jungle" became an argument. Except on that show, the argument was over whether the title belonged to Tarzan or to King Kong.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago

Thanks for doing the research! Fun fact!

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So Northern Canada is the Jungles?

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So is a decent portion of the Canadian arctic

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Many parts of Appalachia are rain forests too

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just learned some about that a few months back! What a trip. I saw videos of places that were more fecund than NW Florida!

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

The east coast of the USA is actually really interesting as a temperate rainforest in many parts.

The Paw Paw is a crazy tropical tasting / seeming fruit that is endemic to the eastern half of the USA and much of Central America.

It’s making a comeback

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Below the tree line maybe.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay, this made me look up if Australia is still a commonwealth. It is, but who the fuck knew India still was? I'm not the only one who didn't know, right?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

fwiw the word "commonwealth" is...essentially meaningless. If you hear someone say commonwealth on its own, they're probably talking about the Commonwealth of Nations as @scholar@lemmy.world described. The Commonwealth of Nations is basically a loose grouping of countries that do various things together. Probably the most noteworthy thing they do together is the Commonwealth Games, a sort of mini-Olympics.

But several other things also use the word. There's the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), a grouping of former Soviet states. There's Australia, a country whose full name (in the way the full name of America is the United States of America) is the Commonwealth of Australia (and in Australia, "the Commonwealth" is sometimes used synonymously with "the federal Government"). There are several states in America which are properly termed commonwealths, such as the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

[–] scholar@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

India is not a commonwealth, but is a member of the Commonwealth of Nations. Charles III is the head of the Commonwealth but not the monarch, he is separately the monarch of some (but not all) Commonwealth countries. Most Commonwealth countries are republics.

Australia is both a commonwealth (in name) and a member of the Commonwealth of Nations, but those are two separate kinds of commonwealth.

To summarise: All commonwealths are commonwealths but not all commwealths are the Commonwealth of Nations and not all members of the Commonwealth of Nations are commonwealths (although some are).

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

he is separately the monarch of some (but not all) Commonwealth countries. Most Commonwealth countries are republics

Also fun fact, some members of the Commonwealth are monarchies, but with a different monarch than House Windsor. Like Malaysia.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

To summarise: All commonwealths are commonwealths but not all commwealths are the Commonwealth of Nations and not all members of the Commonwealth of Nations are commonwealths (although some are).>

Lmao, well that explains it! So this is how you remain a monarch in a democracy, hide yourself.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's why 'von und zu' exists in German. 'von' means 'of House...', and 'zu' basically means 'resides in ...'. So King von und zu Luxemburg would be King of house Luxemburg who also lives in Luxemburg

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting. So can someone be "von" multiple places? Charles von Australia und United Kingdom und Canada und New Zealand zu United Kingdom?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, generally European noble titles stacked.

[–] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Was always pokemon race. Gotta catch 'em all!

Incidentally, in German the lion also isn't called king of the jungle, but king of the animals. But I don't know if that means von animals or zu animals 🤔.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 0 points 1 day ago

You call that a knife?