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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Solution:

Motor-voting registration in all states through the DMV. You already have to prove citizenship for Real ID. Make sure everyone getting a state ID is also registered to vote.

Then you do 100% vote by mail.

Republicans: "Wait, not like that..."

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 56 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Do ya one better. Make voting mandatory.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Now THAT would end the Republican party forever. And it would be an easy sell for Democrats too.

"Since our president loves democracy and voting integrity so much, let's pass a bipartisan law requiring all eligible citizens to vote or face penalties of fines and imprisonment."

Then watch the mental gymnastics of MAGAs trying to argue how mandatory voting and voting in general is a bad idea.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think this is clear cut anymore. Low information voters broke very hard for Trump. Democrats have work to do to win back the average voter, but the adage of "we win when people turn out" broke in this last election.

Democrats need to get off their ass and offer something better. The fact that Trump won so handily should be a damn wake up call that they are out of touch. Republicans message sucks ass, but it still beat the hell out of Democrats. The party leadership needs an overhaul because they are floundering and trotting out these old adages excuses how piss poor they've done leading the party.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Voter turn-out was low last election. Turns out drum circles with Oprah and other Hollywood sycophants while substituting all policy discussions with "uhh...JOY and ORANGE MAN BAD!" was not a winning strategy. If everyone is forced to vote you would see a lot of odd things. Most of them not great for either Republicans or Democrats, but ultimately healthy for a liberal state.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I would hope so. I think it would be the right thing to do. But I don't think Democrats would see all the "instant landslide wins" that are talked about. I don't think they can accurately predict how that will go. I just don't buy that the average non-voter is definitely voting Democrat.

But again - we should push for it because I think it's the right thing to do, not because I think it's good strategy.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

These are the same Republicans who stand for less government interference. You really think they will agree to force their people to vote?

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 7 points 1 week ago

They only want less government in regulation of businesses to make easier and more profitable to plunder society.

Otherwise they're all over the idea of telling people what to do or think or who to worship, etc.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"Why do you hate freedom?" :)

Look at the pushback on mandatory vaccinations...

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I am all for mandatory voting in the US for everyone over the age of 18. Voting is not just a right but a civic duty and everyone should be required, and enabled, to carry it out.

As for those worried about paying for it take a percentage of every political donation/contribution to candidates, parties and PAC's and fund it with that.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not everyone needs a real ID, and you'd just be preventing poor citizens from voting.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Getting a real ID isn't a requirement to register to vote at the DMV. You could also be there to get a regular ID, register your car, etc. This is how we do it in Oregon and we also have regular election offices too. The very people you're talking about are much more likely to visit the DMV at some point than visit an election office.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Real ID is becoming a requirement for all state issued IDs. Let me see what the current deadline is:

May 7th.

https://www.oregon.gov/odot/dmv/pages/realidtraveler.aspx

"Do I need a REAL ID?

 Yes, if you...

Are 18 and older and will travel in the U.S. by plane after May 7, 2025, without a valid passport.

Visit military bases, secure federal facilities or nuclear plants.

 No, if you...

Have a star on your license, permit or ID (this means you already have a REAL ID).

Prefer to use an unexpired, government-issued passport for U.S. travel.

Do not travel the country by plane.

Do not visit military bases, secure federal facilities or nuclear plants.

Are under 18 years old. TSA does not require children under 18 to provide identification when traveling within the United States."

[–] horrorslice@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

You are not forced to get a Real ID and can stick to a state only drivers license (if you want).

It's a requirement for those listed things.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (21 children)

So you only need it under certain conditions. It's not a requirement to vote. So most people don't need it, because the vast majority of people don't visit military bases, secure federal facilities, or travel via aircraft.

Voting is a fundamental right. You really want to make it so only people wealthy enough to fly places get to vote?

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago

Louisiana just declared a state of emergency over their aged license system, they're saying if you need to fly you might need 180 days to go through their accelerated program to get a real id

[–] FringeTheory999@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (12 children)

A lot of people don’t have IDs or licenses, they cost money, you have to take time off of work to get them, which also costs money, and a lot of people have barriers to getting ID if they lack supporting paperwork, like a birth certificate, bills in your name to prove address, three forms if ID, etc. heck lots of people don’t even have an address at all. People who don’t have easy access to supporting paperwork, who don’t have addresses, or can’t afford fees are all allowed to vote. This cuts a lot of the most vulnerable people in the country out of the democratic process, which is why the righties are always pushing for this stuff. They’d rather that the people who stand to lose the most from right wing policies be unable to vote against those policies.

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[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s not that easy to get a Real ID. I struggled to get one because I’ve been moving a lot lately and they require a bunch of documents pointing to the same residential address. I was only able to get one after I settled down long enough to meet that requirement.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You need 2 documents as proof of address. So a utility bill + something else. Electric bill + phone bill. Done. Credit card + internet. Done.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They wanted 3 documents. There was a typo in the copy of my lease I was able to get (previous year) so I couldn’t use that. I was sharing a phone plan and it was under someone else’s name. Electricity and internet were included in rent.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

Then you talk to your landlord and fix your lease, super easy.

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