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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But it's religion that brainwashes a huge portion of them to blindly follow and obey even when it hurts them or isn't good for them.

Take away religion and the conservative base vanishes. They wouldn't be able to win elections.

Religion no longer blocks the way to progress, things improve, people don't get sucked into the conservative rabbit hole the same way.

Slowly but surely, at least what we consider conservatives today and in the past would cease to exist.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't be so confident that the removal of religion would be such a panacea for humanity. These social structures developed for a reason and things would likely appear to fill the vacuum. People already raise up companies and cults of personality in place of formal religion as it is. Even just being a republican party supporter has a certain degree of cult like devotion.

If your view of a conservative is a person of deep religious conviction, then sure, I guess.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In other words, humans love to simp.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

Humans collectively have a lot of pent up craziness, angst, and existential terror... and it's got to go somewhere.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think all conservatives are deeply religious, but it's the religious that prop them up. So much hate and death in human existence stems from religion. That hate breeds hate even outside the religious, quickening its spread.

If it was gone, humanity would finally be able to begin the healing process.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have no qualms about the dissolution of religious structures, but I feel like you're underestimating humanity's ability to self-sabotage when envisioning such a rose tinted portrayal of a post-religion society.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I am, but maybe we should just abolish that first and see how things go before also abolishing conservatives.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are we talking about active abolition...? You want to just say "no religion anymore" to any and every person you consider religious?

"I'm kind of spiritual sometimes..." may lead to some grey areas. Surely secular education and encouragement is the key.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well the original comment was about deleting it. Boom, it doesn't exist anymore.

It's not like that's going to happen, but society is going to be held back until we naturally move away from it, and people stop keep trying to impose it on others.