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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 252 points 1 year ago (25 children)

West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin called today’s vote to oust McCarthy a “sad day for our country” that sends a negative message to the rest of the world about American democracy.

-Said a douchebag who spent years obstructing progress.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 152 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I didn't make any money from this. A sad day."

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joe Manchin voting record sends a negative message to the rest of the world about American democracy.

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[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin

They misspelled republican in disguise wrong

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[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 205 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Democrats this morning were shown a clip of McCarthy on CBS over the weekend trying to blame them for shutdown chaos, Rep. Gerry Connolly, D-Va., said, calling that a clarifying moment for those in the party who might have voted to save him. McCarthy's decision to blame Democrats on TV this weekend was "one of the most crushingly stupid things somebody could do on the eve of your survival vote," he told NBC News this afternoon.

I saw that interview clip - the reporter actually started laughing when he tried to blame the Democrats. It really was a stupid thing to say.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 116 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Democrats were discussing working with him. Then he basically told them to fuck off with that interview. So he lost with 8 republican votes. Such bad strategy. It just makes you think, aren't you supposed to be a politician. You ever politiced in your whole life?

I guess this is the kind of stupid, horrible strategy you can expect from the current Republican party. They don't have to make deals are negotiate. Their entire platform is scream Democrats bad.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago

He was trying to throw the democrats under the bus because the threat from Gaetz was that he was working with the Democrats. But he forgot the Democrats aren’t complete pushovers, just mostly pushovers, and ended up falling under the bus instead.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 157 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want to keep this as civil as possible. The world would be a better place without Republicans in it.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Delete conservatism and religion.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (20 children)

If you deleted religion would conservatism even survive a few generations?

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 114 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember this is the same McQarthy who chose to kiss orange ass at every opportunity he got. He was given so many opportunities to do the right thing but deliberately chose to be an asshole and pack all the committees with Nazi caucus members. He did everything he could to push extreme right wing lunacy and kill bipartisanship.

Now the same Qevin turns around and makes a pikachu face why Dems didn’t save his sorry ass.

[–] dmonzel@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

K-Mac was also the dude that said on the floor that Putin pays Trump and Dana Rohrabacher. Yet he continued to side with them, after Dead Eyes Paul Ryan told him to keep that info in the family.

Kevvy pooped in his bed and was surprised he woke up covered in shit.

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[–] nl4real@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We gonna get a carousel like the Conservatives in the UK last year? Will our next speaker outlast a cabbage?

[–] deconstruct@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On this side of the pond we use Scaramuccis

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get that Dems are enjoying seeing the Republicans seem to fail, but I get the feeling this is going to turn out horribly. We’re going to see Speaker Jim Jordan or Matt Gaetz and the country will suffer for it.

[–] ErrorF002@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Highly unlikely. Freedom caucus will not get the speakership. GOP hates them more than McCarthy. Gaetz didn't think this through. The only option is more of the same or somebody more friendly to the Democrats.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The freedom caucus can block any nominee they want, and Republicans have made it clear they won’t accept someone that wants to work with Dems. It took 15 votes to get McCarthy as it was. I am not hopeful.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The freedom caucus can only block nominees if no compromise is made with dems. The gop can give concessions and have a speaker tomarrow if they like.

If they dont, then the house will have no speaker, and the GOP will get no bills passed of any type. The budget will be CRs until the election because none of the middle of the road GOP wants the shutdown fallout.

Then, hopefully all these clowns get walloped.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If we oversimplify what happened, it's hilarious that they are mad at him for voting with Dems, so they got rid of him by voting with Dems.

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[–] Acronymesis@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I can’t shake the bad feeling that the timing is going to be a real problem once shutdown time rolls around here in less than 40-ish days. What if we don’t even have a fucking speaker at all by then??

There is the possibility that Dems coordinate a vote with the not-Freedom Caucus GOP to elect the least disagreeable candidate, though…

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[–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, the GOP have really let themselves be gutted by their most extreme members.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 67 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Call me old and cynical but I see the inevitable conclusion of this game that the conservatives have been playing being a civil war. This is what they are pysnigb for, this is what they want.

The reason they want this is because, well, they are extremist Christian terrorists and they're plain evil. Dunno how else to say it. They don't want gays to have any rights, they want gays converted or dead. They don't want trans people to have rights and have a remote shred of happiness, they want them dead. They don't give a shit about abortion, they want more babies in poor and breken families who are easy to manipulate into voting for them. Hell, they don't want democracy, they want a theocracy.

They watched the handmaid's tale and thought they were watching an awesome documentary. It contains all the elements that gets them hard; being able to force their religion upon others, being able to control others, rape others...

Imitgt be having a tinfoil hat on right now but I see these extremists come up with a document that wants to do away with democracy and have an all powerful ~~president~~ dictator, that outlines a plan to prohibit porn and even simply books that talk about transgender issues and jail anyone who produces or possesses such evils...

These are not nice people, at this point I think it's safe enough to say that these are dangerous terrorists

I think the US is in much bigger trouble than most people see

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[–] SerfDWeb@sh.itjust.works 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Could we please stop calling these agents of destruction "conservative"? They don't want to conserve anything. "Destructives" would be better.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Now they're a complete set of failures!

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As it stands the GOP seem unlikely to be able to elect a speaker. Speakers provide a list of people to become temporary speaker in case of emergency, so upon McCarthy's ouster rep. Patrick McHenry became speaker pro tempore. Speakers pro tempore have only the authority to gavel sessions in and out, and to conduct votes for a new speaker.

Basically McHenry's first act with the gavel was to order Pelosi out of her offices. What an asshole

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right?

I'm no fan of hers, but jeez McHenry... let's see, what's more important: try to get the House back on track, or engage in petty, vindictive partisan bullshit?

I'm glad the House passed that CR, though I'm not sure they'll have a new speaker before it runs out.

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now wait a minute.......I thought they liked McCarthy SOOOO much, they were willing to vote for him as speaker 15 times in a row just this year?

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[–] deconstruct@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What was McCarthy's plan?

He spent the last week daring Gaetz to file the motion, and once it happened, that was it? No political maneuvering or deal making? Just let the chips fall where they may?

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I can't wait for a historic 16 rounds of voting to get a speaker this time.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Anyone know who are the 5 most liberal republicans in the house are and if they want to just come over to the side that wants to govern?

Edit: According to a list I found online, those would be: -Fitzpatrick, Brian (PA-1) -Van Drew, Jeff (NJ-2) -Lawler, Mike (NY-17) -Chavez-DeRemer, Lori (OR-5) -Smith, Chris (NJ-4)

I'm never heard of any of them.

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