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[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Take a look at the other comments. The other side of the bottle states it helps reduce the amount of plastic required on the inside bottle by 50%, while making things easier to recycle.

Unfortunately that detail doesnt fit on one side, the only side the imager taker chose to show.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Omission of details in this image can be slightly misleading. However branding the container as “Paperbottle” is much more misleading by an order of magnitude.

Product labeling is almost pointless. Especially if it can be missed by a photographer.

Neither is right, but one is definitely more wrong

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Yea I do agree. Companies that really want to make things better just need to sell bulk refills. Plastic use goes way down the larger the container (to a point based on weight). In-store refills are of course the best, but lots more challenges there.

[–] CafecitoHippo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I did some digging and it seems well-intended but its just done really poorly and misleading. From what I can tell, because of the paper outer protective layer, they were able to use a lighter plastic layer on the inside layer reducing the amount of plastic used. If not for the plastic on the inside, I don't know how you'd really keep the bottle from disintegrating from all the liquid inside.

I do think that they were lying about not seeing how people could misinterpret what they thought they were saying with the bottle. Obviously some people are going to look at something saying "This is a paper bottle" and think that means the whole bottle is paper. I would've assumed some sort of chemical/hydrophobic coating on the inside which might not be great for the environment either. But them saying they didn't expect people to misinterpret it is dumb.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If not for the plastic on the inside, I don’t know how you’d really keep the bottle from disintegrating from all the liquid inside.

Wax?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How about a ceramic or glass one that you refill?

The refills themselves can also be a glass bottle that you fill at the store or something

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure, but that increases weight and cost. It's certainly an option though.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not if you keep using the same bottle for refills, that's the entire point

Sure, but how much does that actually happen?

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've always thought about this. If there was a like a soda machine, with shampoo, dish soap, etc I could refill at, I'd definitely use it.

Yeah, that would be rad. Some stores do that for water and peanut butter and whatnot, but I haven't seen soap.