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transportation and travel fundamentals.
Just ignore people's lives involving those that live near them, family, lack of money, lack of a destination that will take them long term, and every other thing beyond vehicles go vroom.
that's not a good idea; you aren't taking into account important parts of people's lives that can affect their ability or inclination to travel.
you sound a bit DeSantis, wanting to ship people off without due consideration or even a rough plan in mind.
I think you replied to the wrong comment.
you said:
"just ignore people's lives involving those that live near them, family, lack of money, lack of a destination that will take them long term, and every other thing beyond vehicles go vroom. "
my reply:
that's not a good idea; you aren't taking into account important parts of people's lives that can affect their ability or inclination to travel.
you sound a bit DeSantis, wanting to ship people off without due consideration or even a rough plan in mind.
???
Where are these hundreds of millions of people travelling to?
are you trying to ask where Americans can travel?
yes
Americans can travel to most countries in the world(180 of them, give or take) either visa-free or with a visa on arrival.
Almost all remaining countries accept online visa applications. You fill out an online form (15 minutes or less), pay the fee, and they email you the Visa a day or two later.
Oh so you literally just mean travel. Not actually working or settling down?
"...not actually working or settling down?"
In the previous comment, I was answering your question of "where americans can travel" to.
If you want to work or settle down abroad, you can do that.
If you want to travel indefinitely, you can do that too.
Travel is up to the traveler.
You original comment didn't read to me as "take a vacation" so given the broader context I wasn't taking the wording so literally.
that's good, I definitely wasn't saying "take a vacation".
"You original comment...so literally."
don't take it too literally.
when i wrote:
"i suggest leaving.
it's better outside."
I was referring to leaving the country and situation that is making OP miserable, rather than leaving this post or your apartment or whatever literal conclusion you're referring to now.
But even then I doubt the majority of Americans can afford to do so.
No use for doubt when the information is avalable:
Tickets to central america this month starting at 21$, Europe starting at $98, Asia starting at $249(cherry blossom prices).
That's a very short-sighted, one-dimensional take.
What about vacation time? Lost pay? Do you comprehend how most people are living?
"That's a very short-sighted, one-dimensional take."
those are ticket prices, not a "take".
I've addressed all of your questions and many more besides, accounting for multiple variables and providing information with factual data, experience, consensus and outside inputs in mind.
if you believe the consideration of various perspectives, classes and cultures is one-dimensional, it is likely a result of your own perspective.
Are you proposing a majority of Americans could just go take a vacation outside the country right now?
no, why?
Are you asking another "is this possible at all" question?
Are you speaking from direct experience? Where did you end up and how? Fascism is a growing trend. America has changed pretty significantly, but retreating seems like it could get a bit cat and mouse with the direction other nations are also headed.
"Are you speaking from direct experience?"
i am speaking from direct experience.
"Where did you end up"
I've been traveling over a decade; started in china, went to a few dozen countries, still going.
"how?"
came across an ad for teaching english, flew over to China. kept going.
"Fascism is a growing trend."
it's certainly a very popular topic within a few countries these days.
i daresay it's much easier to comprehend from out here.
"America has changed pretty significantly"
it might seem like that standing on the pulse there but again, things look different from out here.
"bit cat and mouse with the direction other nations are also headed."
there are 200 countries, none of which are static.
you may feel confined because you're living in one of them, and it could be that you think you're only supposed to live in one of them.
"retreating"
protesting, not retreating.
if you live outside of the states for more than 330 days per year, you aren't required to pay earned income tax up $125,000.
administrations and policies I don't agree with don't get my tax revenue, and haven't for a long time.
Withholding funding from the system is preferable to participating in and contributing to the system.
Vote with your feet.