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In another bullshit move by Nintendo this time around.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 127 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Initially. Still annoying but title is misleading.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I need a fucking online subscription to buy a controller???

[–] Thistlewick@lemmynsfw.com 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At least it gives people who are using their switches a chance to buy one, instead of them selling out in seconds to a network of bot accounts before winding up on eBay for $300+ the following week.

It’s not the perfect system, but I can understand why they are doing it.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I am using my Switch just fine without an online subscription. I guess Nintendo thinks I am using it wrong.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Right, but he sub is shareable and a pretty cheap barrier for entry... and required to play those GameCube games anyway.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

I don't need it to play Smash with friends on the couch.

Really I shouldn't need the subscription for GC ports either. What's wrong with making them individual purchases like on the 3DS? (Answer: that's not monthly recurring revenue.)

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Nintendo opting to forgo selling retro games piecemeal and instead expecting consumers to rent access to them in perpetuity is an anti-consumer move.

I have no problem paying for games when they're sold at affordable, reasonable prices, so until that's the case for Nintendo's library, better to just emulate as much of it as possible.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sure, but that's a different issue; I agree with that. Don't forget that if you even are allowed to 'buy' them, they will close the online service for that platform in the future with no guarantee you can use it on another platform.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can you think of a better way to keep it mostly out of the hands of scalpers?

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They must enter a unique switch serial number (that corresponds with inventory) to make the purchase? Don't see why it has to be contigent on a subscription.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That would work if serial numbers weren't visible without even opening the box the device came in, and I'm they are even included on the receipt for the device. Scalpers would absolutely have a ton of serial numbers just lying around from unsold devices, or even devices they sold and just hope the owner of won't bother attempting a purchase of the thing they are scalping.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Make enough of them that scalping isn't profitable.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That's a fine solution long term I guess, but things take time to be made.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Put the onus on the retailer to limit how many units a single customer can purchase. Why would Nintendo give a single fuck about scalpers, anyway?

[–] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I mean, there’s plenty of reasons to not like Nintendo, but this whole thing is because the GameCube coming to their Online subscription. So I mean… it makes sense.

[–] doctortofu@reddthat.com 17 points 1 week ago

I mean, it's Nintendo - if there was a way to somehow automatically charge your card every time you say, hear or think the words "Nintendo", "Mario" and such, they'd do it without hesitation...

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's been standard for the switch retro controller releases. And yes it's been bullshit the entire time. I would have liked an N64 one.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But you don't have the sub (cheap when sharing a family pack) so you can't play the N64 games anyway.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How I can't play N64 games without a subscription? 🏴‍☠️

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because you need it to play them on Switch.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

unless you stumble on a brick, fall down and accidentally install a rp2040 on the switch, then accidentally flash picofly when trying to understand what's going on

[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

Yes, it’s the same for their other classic controllers.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A controller that is useful only when you have that online subscription to play the back catalogue, yes.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The new switch has a whole button that doesn't work without a paid online subscription 🤪

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

Lemmy 24/7: "if its free, you're the product"

Lemmy on Nintendo: "Why should I pay for online play?! It needs to be free, moderated, and exist indefinitely even after the obsolescence of the product. Otherwise, I'm entirely justified in pirating everything."

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lol yeah. It makes sense. You don't want your peripheral for the console to sell out to buyers that just want to use it for emulation.

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does it make sense? Emulation is going to happen one way or another. If Nintendo sold a GC controller that is PC compatible, they'd at least make some money from those buyers.

[–] Copernican@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

It will. But for the first run you don't want people buying the console and paying for the switch GameCube access to have to ability to buy a GC controller. It's like how for sports teams season ticket holders usually get some first access to buy playoff tickets.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But... I want it for emulation.... Any good reliable 3rd party out there?

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

PowerA did a good wireless one that also had a second Z button on the other side

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

NYXI Wizard maybe

Or search on Etsy for a refurbished controller and just use an adapter to connect it to PC. Though many sellers only sell Phob GCC. It’s a modded GC controller with a custom motherboard. It uses Hall Effect sensors so the sticks will never ever experience drift. It’s expensive though. Like here is a fancy one for $325 https://sagecustomcontrollers.com/products/phob-gcc

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Well that got me all worked up for no reason, didn't it.

Thanks for the clarification.

COME ON, OP!