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[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 84 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Whether or not you should consume HP Lovecraft media despite the fact he was a racist is entirely up to you because he is long dead. He doesn't make any money. He isn't even racist any more. Because he's dead.

I always say "If you're going to be a shitshow of a human being but a talented artist, the least you can do is also be dead."

See also: Phil Spector, Pablo Picasso.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 20 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

HP Lovecraft was more a clinical xenophobe and expressed that in his writings. He was afraid of different races, but he was also deadly afraid of scientific advancement and even the color indigo. He also didn't fund terrible politicians or get into feuds on twitter. You also don't see terrible people on twitter using his writings to justify their beliefs.

JK Rowling is actively funding and bragging about making other people's lives worse.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

Yeah, I actually think Lovecraft was doing what was probably the healthiest thing available to him at the time with all his fucked up phobias by turning them into inspiration for spooky stories. He was creative and articulate enough that he could have been writing political screeds and trying to get others on board with driving out all the immigrants, but instead he wrote about crab monsters from space. Far from the worst possible outcome considering a lot of the other possibilities from the time.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

There's also something to say about someone that was a racist in his mind, but made some effort to move in a better direction and/or live in isolation, versus someone that's actively moving toward ruining other people lives with the benefits they reap.

[–] Pnut@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

There is a novel called "The Art of Monsters" that came out in the wake of Harvey Weinstein (not that he's an artist). It's a good read.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

I'm sure some is profiting from his estate, no?

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

His works are public domain. People are profiting who did their own work compiling or creating derivative works

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Hello, username cousin

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Well his estate is pretty loose about enforcing copyright and don't take in much per product. That's why you see so much merch. Secondly they are not some racist dipshit.

[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago

Plus, it was a shared mythos. He created the main core of it, but others contributed as well. So, figuring out copyrights would be difficult, since some stories reference other stories. Remember, they thought they were just writing some horror stories, but that they would never be something anyone other than other horror story enthusiasts would see.

IP was not a thing yet, and they were just writing for fun. A modern version would be the shared SCP universe.

[–] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Is his estate run by raging racists?