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So much fucking wrong with this story!
80-year-old behind the wheel.
Driving a truck too fucking big to see kids.
Hits a child then tries to get away.
Charged only with manslaughter.
Parents of the dead child forgive him, saying they don't want severe consequences for the guy who killed their son and attempted to get away with murder.
Fuck this whole thing. All of it.
The guy was charged with leaving the scene. Would have liked the phrase "hit and run" somewere in the artical as that's what happened.
Also can he be charged with lieing to an officer? He definitely is covering his tracks but badly.
Florida just wants to kill all their children.
But not fertilised eggs, that would be very very bad.
Maybe as a trade, we could leave it at manslaughter if the same charge is applied to the designers of big-grill pickup trucks and SUVs.
An old guy in a truck ran over a dude at my work who was laying down and doing something at the gas station. Told the dude to sue the insurance for millions.
Friend, read the article.
Not only is manslaughter inappropriate for a hit-and-run, but him dragging the body without intention to stop suggests he may have killed this boy as he was trying to run away.
If an upgraded charge can't be done in this case, then we need to make a new charge for future hit-and-run drivers.
Having a friend who's life was derailed for years after being dragged under a van for a block, I'm guessing he didn't even notice. Just straight-up oblivious. The driver who right hooked my buddy and dragged him, as far as anyone could tell, was completely unaware of what had happened. And an Ecoline is both smaller than and has better visibility that one of these modern bloater trucks.
As terrible as that must have been, the driver could very well argue ignorance (they should still be in deep shit for it, though).
But in this case, the driver was being hailed by multiple witnesses who were trying to stop him from leaving the scene, and he fled faster!
He might claim negligence for the initial hit, but not for the rest of it.
Right but my point is that in that raised climate controlled soundproofed cab he might legitimately not heard shit. Not that it should be an excuse, but an American judge would probably disagree with me on that. Old fart's got his culpable deniability.
That's what licencing is for.
You assume that licence drivers understand the limitations and risks of the vehicle they are in.
You assume that they would drive slowly and/or with a window down if they can't see/hear well enough to avoid hitting things in a residential area.
Not this
lol no I don't assume any of that and it's kinda weird how often people on lemmy are telling me what I assume
Still DEFINITELY not that
Insane attitude to have, maybe worse to verbalise
You lost me mate
If he heard it or not, hitting something and not stopping is crazy.
Especially when you have multiple people flagging you down to stop!
His age, the vehicle, his lack of skill behind the wheel... there were so many preventable red flags that a kid ended up dead.
That's why I said there should be a new, elevated charge available in these cases.
FWIW, there are circumstances where a charge is automatically elevated, even if not premeditated, so we know that laws can have flexibility.
For example:
I'm not saying drivers who do hit-and-runs should get 1st degree murder, but they should get something more than that.
If this happened in Canada, the driver could get life in prison. But Florida looks at hit-and-run as a third-degree felony, which is equal to something like forgery or theft over $750. 🫤
I do think "fleeing a crime scene" and "destroying evidence" would be mentionable. The real problem though is 80 yr olds shouldn't be driving cars or trucks.
Its so depressing that we force 80 year olds to drive cars instead of giving people alternative transportation.
@Fedizen @jerkface most 80 yr olds opposed development of alternative transportation decades ago. So, they are now dealing with the consequences of their choice.