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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 336 points 3 weeks ago (39 children)

I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.

He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.

That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.

[–] deaf_fish@midwest.social 61 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

There was a way around this that would have resulted in no deaths. Trump should been prosecuted for the January 6th insurrection. Then we should have put a bunch of fascists in jail for a long time. Then we should have de-platformed grifters.

But none of that happens so. We get what we get.

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[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It comes across to me as they simply lack empathy for other "kinds" of people. If you actually felt the same pain and empathy when watching the video of Kirk get merked, you should feel that a thousand times over when seeing a thousand videos of the IOF massacring children, many sniped in the same way Kirk got merked, and then you should look upon Kirk in disgust for supporting that and dehumanizing the Palestinian people. But the fact is these people don't. They don't see other "kinds" of people different from them as in fact "people." Let's be real, they don't feel the same kind of empathy for Palestinian fathers dying as they do a white fascist dying. They constantly mock the deaths of minority groups like trans people. They suddenly have empathy and demand pacifism and valuing the sanctity of all life when a white fascist dies, but are silent in every other case.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

If you're part of a movement that's taking vaccines away from babies, well, you're evil and people are going to respond to that.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

His family shouldn't expect empathy, and he wouldn't want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

I expect the NRA will stage a gunshow at a nearby site someplace in the next few days, right? Its what they do for school shootings and this was at a school. So Kirk's fam can stock up on cheap ammo.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Charlie Kirk wouldn't have wanted you to feel any empathy for him or his family.

"I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics"

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Assuming his kids are young enough, I'd feel bad for them. They probably don't understand well enough.

His wife though I don't care for at all, and will likely use his death for profit and to make her kids extremists. One can only hope they question why their father was hated enough to be killed while most people everyday aren't.

[–] halfeatenpotato@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 weeks ago

Well said. Claiming he simply died for his political beliefs is highly reductive and disingenuous.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

materially supporting state violence

Dingdingdingdingding.

Here's the winner, right here. Fascist fucks want to go around pretending that only billy clubs and bullets and bombs count as "violence." Inflicting mass starvation on people, withholding medical care, stealing workers' wages they depend upon to survive, and brutalizing minorities and marginalized groups (oftentimes with actual up front physical attacks) is "just doing business."

So news flash to the chucklefucks: That's not how it works. State sponsored violence is still violence, and so it follows the oppressed have a right to defend themselves. It sure sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, don't it?

But it turns out there's an easy way to defend yourself from that sort of thing. All you have to do is not be an evil and hateful fuck whose policies and actions threaten the lives of others and their right to exist.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's bad to kill for political beliefs only if a fascist dies. Otherwise nobody will even know about anything.

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