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[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Of course it is. They just work differently and are not as stupid as the US zoning laws, but that doesn't mean zoning laws don't exist.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's quite the bold claim, do you have a source for that? Because last I heard, some politician wanted to introduce zoning last year and got shouted down because it's an objectively terrible idea.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What politician tried to introduce what and where? Europe is not one single legislative body. This stuff differs from country to country inside the EU, but AFAIK every country has some sort of regulations as to what can be built where and how. The laws might differ in their specifics, but they'll serve the same general purpose tailored to their own cultural and geographical needs. It's not zoning itself that leads to US-style suburban hellscapes, it's how they are defined and applied. European countries simply choose not to zone their land like the US does.

Anyway, here's a sample of German zoning regulations for you as an example. It names industrial zones, agricultural zones, mixed residential zones, exclusive residential zones, etc. Again, they won't work the same as the US laws, but they're zoning regulations. You'll see the word "Gebiet" a lot in there, which literally translates to "zone".

Here's a map of Vienna's zones.

[–] Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I live in the UK. Wasn't aware they were a thing in the EU, thanks for the info.

[–] chaitae3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I would like to recommend to you this 20 min explainer of the exact issue by one of my favourite youtubers:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=aQxP_Ftz2RE