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[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Actual libertarians support people like Bernie Sanders. (Yeah, he's big on social programs, but he's also bigger on civil liberties than most Democrats, let alone Republicans.)

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The main stream libertarian voice and narrative was stolen in 2010 and alas we never really got them back, even in the time of tyranny. No one in power wanted us on the sidelines talking about the importance of balancing liberty and security through policy. Certainly not fiscal discipline, or accountable government. I’m appalled by the people I meet who call them selves libertarian. Most of who are just conservatives that started smoking weed after seeing Joe Rogan do it.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m appalled by the people I meet who call them selves libertarian. Most of who are just conservatives that started smoking weed after seeing Joe Rogan do it.

I thought that was the joke about Libertarians since...forever - "Republicans who smoke weed".

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I mean they are a type who is attracted to the political ideals. Perhaps that type took over the party. Idk I hold a pretty rigid standard on who gets to call themselves libertarian. You gotta be ready to put your life down for someone else’s liberty. The dudes that volunteered to help Ukraine? Those are real libertarians. Putting your life and liberty at risk to defend the next man’s.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

One of the corner stones of the libertarian movement was opposing global banking, and the surveillance state that bush set up. And then black president and then poof, we’re now the party of Sarah Palin?