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He's cooking right now. Points, rebounds and blocks.

only his 2nd year but he was 13th pick last season. Was high on him after last season and he seems to have taken a jump.

Thoughts about him so far this season?

stats: 18.0 points, 15.3 rebounds, 4.0 assists, 2.3 blocks

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[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Second year players should not be eligible for MIP

[–] RangerFrom3@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I never understand the people that argue all season for a second year player to win MIP when it almost never happens. Since 1995 there have been only two and they where both second round picks. Gilbert Arenas and Monta Ellis. It’s simply just common sense that a second year player, especially a lottery pick will improve. People need to quit ignoring this context or else they’ll just spend another season arguing for a guy that will not win. Just accept the facts guys.

[–] Thirdstar1@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Cool. Gimmie Cade then /s

[–] believemedude@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disagree. I agree that more volume and better stats shouldn’t automatically make you an MIP but some dudes look like completely different players from year one to two

[–] nikop@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A big leap from year one to year two is expected though. The award should be reserved for players who break through after everyone thought they'd plateaued, kind of like Markkanen or Randle or Brunson.

[–] drypaint77@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But you're just making up your own definition. The award isn't "most unexpected improved player", who said players who are expected to improve shouldn't be eligible?

[–] NotChasingThese@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'd say historically the MIP award has just been "the biggest surprise" and to many a second year improvement isn't surprising

Maybe that doesn't line up exactly with the name of the award but you can't deny that's how it's been interpreted through the years

[–] elcarOehT@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] drypaint77@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

How? It's called "most improved player" so the player who improved the most should be awarded, it's literally in the name. Nowhere does it say it has to be a surprise.

[–] TheAniReview@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I agree on this one