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It’s taken only 24 hours, but Trump’s fairytale Middle East peace seems doomed
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I meant more the jewish peoples fighting the muslim peoples which to be fair is only like 1500 years old not a few thousand but I'm always a bit hyperbolic when I wake up.
I mean, there wasn't a Jewish state for hundreds of years before Islam was founded, so I don't think it is really comparable.
Jews were alternately accepted or oppressed (up to and including torture and what we now call genocide) basically forever, basically everywhere. But the idea that Jews and Muslims have been at each other's throats for thousands of years is not really true, IMHO.
Through the Middle Ages, Muslims discriminated against Jews (as they did against all non-Muslim monotheists). That meant they paid higher taxes but were exempt from military service (to really get fucked with under Muslim rule, try being polytheistic or an atheist). In that same era, Christians alternated between welcoming Jews (with various restrictions) and murdering them.
On the other hand, there was a centuries-long series of conflicts between Christians and Muslims. That started with the collapse of the rotten edifice that was the Byzentine Empire, and continued with an extended period of Europe tring to overcome its factionalism in order to contain the Ottomans.
In many western country Imigrants pays for things like education
The tax on non Muslims (jizyah) was in a way beneficial to creating a heterogenous environment. Anybody who tried to expel members of different faiths suffered an immediate loss of income and soon saw the err of their ways. And the more prosperous non-muslims are, the more tax they can pay, so it also gives a reason to take special care of them and help them to prosper.
Religion is a fucking cancer
Why are you putting muslims, arabs and palestinians in the same bag? Palestinians has nothing to do with a conflict between muslims and jews a thousand years ago . There was always conflicts between groups of people living close to each other. Also why don't you mention the periods where there was no conflicts between muslims, christians and jews? Or something like the arab countries siding with the allies against Nazi germany?
I don't think it was really such a big deal back then beyond your kind of baseline drama and conflict humans always get up to. But not much special aminosity between these two groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule
Christians tend towards higher than average belligerence but don't over generalize from them.
People fighting over which God is better is a tale as old as time.
Muslims and jews has the same god. You sound really ignorant