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[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is overstated.

In the old days, there was a hierarchy of reputability. At the top you had the bluechecks that generally represented reputable sources of information, who had premium billing in the platform. Then you had the normies. Then you had the slush-pit of soft-blocked people that were shoved into the "other replies" box because everybody hated them and they only followed their network of bots.

Now, the hierarchy is reversed. The slush-pit people are now have blue-checks, the algorithmic boost on blue-checks is even stronger, and half of the old reputable blue-checks have left.

This is like saying "Reddit/Lemmy has always been awful" if we made the upvotes/downvotes of all the worst people on the site worth 100X what a normal person's upvote/downvote was worth. Yes, there have always been problems, but they can get worse.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This isn't pointed out enough, IMO. People act like it went sharply downhill under Musk but this is the platform that enabled extremists for years and only even banned Trump when he literally tried to overthrow democracy. Maybe Twitter was good in like 2010 but I really don't think Musk changed THAT much about it.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, but the new Twitter reinstated him, and a bunch of Nazis.

I mean, old Twitter was jokingly called "the hellsite" by its users but its new Elongated form is quite a lot worse.

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's just because people are being TOLD that it's bad now. It's literally no worse than it was 5 years ago. Twitter has always been a cesspool of human "thought".

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Agree completely. I think it might be easier for journalists (et al) to tell themselves "Elon made it bad" than it is to admit they had been contributing their efforts to a bad place all this time. Twitter was never very big, and most people avoided it like the plague, but there is a certain class of person who got addicted easily.

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

👋 hello fellow trekkie in the wild

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

🖖 Hello fellow Website user!

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol I got down voted for saying hi to a fellow trekkie that's also on the same trek instance as me. I'm pretty sure we are a small instance, so randomly coming across another person from our instance is kinda rare.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

but it has become much worse in the past year

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

unrelated to your comment, but demon sword or demon's word?

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck, now I'm more interested in finding that out than anything about the article.

[–] Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

TBF I’m more interested in pretty much anything than Twitter.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

why not both? :)

[–] PreviouslyAmused@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asking the important questions.

…. but yeah, which one is it?

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

the former, the latter, or none -- depending on context

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because you're being told it is. twitter has always been a cesspool.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

old twitter at least pretended to fight hate speech and disinformation, the ~~"new" twitter~~ X doesn't give a flying fuck to both issues

[–] ribboo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Not nearly this bad. Go read the article. It’s much easier to spread crap nowadays, even though you could before.