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60 days is so fucking long to be able to operate without congressional approval.
Yeah, it was made at a time when the concept of a war was a months long preparation of deploying troops and moving assets into place. They didn't anticipate just attacking countries overnight.
This was a months- or weeks-long preparation. It’s been known for a while that the US was moving aircraft carriers towards Iran. This absolutely did not happen overnight.
The BBC from 2026-02-20
Edit: and earlier, Military.com from 2026-01-29
Its not unusual for US air assets and carriers to be in this region in general. You might want to look at the preparations for the invasion of Iraq if you want to know what an actual preparation for a war looks like.
Right, and the massing of troops on the Ukrainian border by Russia was not a prelude to that invasion either. /s
This was in no way a bolt from the blue. People knew this was coming. Did you even read the linked article?
Yes. You are aware that February 20th wasn't "months ago" right?
But January 29th was over a month ago, and you can bet that this plan started before the news noticed and reported on it.
Its OK that you said a stupid thing and then pretended you didn't by changing the definition of what "stupid" is.
what? not them but they did add a source as early as January 29th.
I'm lost, how is that redefining stupid?
Because my argument is that this was not a well prepared war with adequate assets put into place in the region which would take months to do, much like was the case with the 2003 Iraq war. And their counter-argument to that was "look, someone dispatched a carrier to the middle east 33 days ago!"
You tell me if you think that is stupid or not.
Okay, but can you see how that's not actually what you said?
You just called it stupid.
But with hindsight, do you think that carrier deployment unrelated?
Because if it is, then some planning went into it.
Does that article support the conclusion that Trumps attack on Iran was adequately planned?
Do you have something to say there wasn't planning? Because that's your claim with 0 evidence, which beats their something.
Sorry, my argument depends on reality that someone who isn't a moron can observe. If you haven't been able to discern a lack of preparation from all of the available evidence that we have been bombarded with over the last three days then nothing I say is going to pull your head out of your ass for you.
No your point is that your trying to be the loudest voice.
All you have are insults instead of anything of substance.
Have the day you deserve.
Sorry you are too fucking stupid to have a conversation with normal people. I hope you go away and never come back. Oh wait, that is achievable. Buh bye.
He said, and I quote:
Note the plural in "months".
Then he added:
If you don't know, the prep for the 2003 invasion of Iraq took 18 months.
Even the extremely rushed (due to the fact that Saddam was actively killing Kuwait) Desert Storm took almost 6 months to prepare.
Note that Iraq is 1/3rd the size of Iran.
It's not that it's unrelated. It's barely consequential considering the scale of the operation. And by "operation" I mean "the actual preparation that would normally take place if someone competent was responsible for the planning of the attack".
The US has assets (including carriers) in the region practically non-stop. One more or less doesn't really change much in the context of them burning through ammo supplies, or the fact that @UnspecificGravity@piefed.social was 100% right in saying that this was completely rushed.
Thank you for coming with more sources.
Half of US state capitals are in the middle of states because they were created at a time when travel times were large enough that you wanted to minimise them for political centres. I'm assuming this was around the same time so maybe it even took time to get congress together?
Oh, I can scroll up two comments. 1973. Scratch that
The interstate system wasn’t completed until 1992. Speed limits were lower in the 1970s as well and vehicles were not designed to go 70+mph at that time.
They were designed for the faster speeds. Speeds were lowered to 55 mph in most of the country during the 1970s as a (perfectly rational) response to the OPEC oil embargoes in that decade. Lower speeds = lower fuel consumption per mile.
Yeah, that makes sense. I forgot the other important detail I was thinking about. Communications. While cell phones were a invented in the 1950s, I think, the technology didn’t start getting wide-spread usage until the 1990s and the internet didn’t exist either back in the 1970s. Sending out deployment orders took a lot longer to happen, just to track down personal and tell everyone. There probably now is just an app you install on your phone and most personal get notified instantly unless they are in a cell dead zone.
No, it was in the 1970s, for which 60 days was a reasonable amount of time to get soldiers into place in order to fight a war.
Doesn't that just mean that there is no need to bypass Congress. They can approve while the troops are getting in position.
Yes, that is the entire point of the war powers act. It allows the president to quickly deploy troops to respond to issues and provides enough time for congress to approve the declaration of war once they are ready to go. Prior to this the US president was NOT permitted to deploy troops at all until congress declared war. The War Powers Act was an EXPANSION of presidential authority.
Wait until 60 days and we recall them for 24 hours just to turn around and... redeploy in the same place.
Sounds like one of the bullshit stunts Trump would try.
Haha! It's like visas! Just attack a different country for like 24 hours then come back to Iran for another 60 days...
Greenland, I hope you're ready for 24 hours of Heck!
Like George Washington rotating his slaves in and out of Pennsylvania so that he wouldn't have to free them. It's a time-honoured American tradition.
And you know after 60 days he's going to rename the operation to "Operation Big Dick Manly War" and claim it's an entirely new thing that gets another 60 days.
This is just a test to see if he can get away with it. Everything he does is poking the bear to see if it attacks. But, the ameribear is dead. He will be using this same method of bypassing Congress and the Supreme Court to declare martial law and take over the country as an official dictatorship.
Let's be clear, Trump isn't the one making these decisions. He doesn't have the mental capacity to think that far ahead.
His handlers are the ones responsible.
Agreed. Though, I mean the administration more than him as a person.
There hasn’t been a declared war since WWII so on this there’s not much difference than how we’ve operated since the 50’s
And Congress can just retroactively make it legal
He’ll probably use the AUMF from 9/11 and it might be legal since Iran funds and directly supports two terrorist organizations.
Personally I think the legality isn’t as important since even if the supremes declare it illegal it won’t stop it. If congress really wants to stop this they’ll pull the funding for it.
If only we had some checks and balances in place
We collectively decided that those weren’t important, like we decided facts and science weren’t real.
We live in a collective delusion
The usa is a terrorist country who back up a terrorist genocidial state called Israel and thst terrorist state is backing terrorists in the west bank
At this point I'd rather have them say it's illegal right now and keep going with the murdering of people without pointless interruptions that gets us nowhere.
It's because americans are incapable of voting Libertarian. It has been quite clearly shown that neither Democrats or Republicans will let go of those war powers.