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The Chinese government has built up the world’s largest known online disinformation operation and is using it to harass US residents, politicians, and businesses—at times threatening its targets with violence, a CNN review of court documents and public disclosures by social media companies has found.

The onslaught of attacks – often of a vile and deeply personal nature – is part of a well-organized, increasingly brazen Chinese government intimidation campaign targeting people in the United States, documents show.

The US State Department says the tactics are part of a broader multi-billion-dollar effort to shape the world’s information environment and silence critics of Beijing that has expanded under President Xi Jinping. On Wednesday, President Biden is due to meet Xi at a summit in San Francisco.

Victims face a barrage of tens of thousands of social media posts that call them traitors, dogs, and racist and homophobic slurs. They say it’s all part of an effort to drive them into a state of constant fear and paranoia.

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[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The goal of democratic socialism is not communism, generally. I'm sure there are a range of individual goals.

Democratic socialism is closer to a fully capatalist system than it is to communism, but attempts to limit capatalism in ways that could be detrimental society (regulation and taxation). Additionally, it implements programs that benefit society (public infrastructure, Healthcare, etc).

A completely capatalist society will kill itself. A fully communist society will grind to a halt. A careful balance between those extremes can deliver many of the benefits of both. Finding that balance is difficult and there are reasonable debates to be had about how. Unfortunately, there are a lot of unreasonable people in power.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're describing Social Democracy. As I said earlier, it's easy to confuse the two.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It is, because it depends on the country and decade that we're talking about. Best I can tell is that it is a distinction without a difference.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A completely capatalist society will kill itself. A fully communist society will grind to a halt. A careful balance between those extremes can deliver many of the benefits of both.

A socialist country will simply kill itself more slowly -- any system that accepts the continued exploitation of the planet is unsustainable. Considering how much damage has already been done to the environment, even if we all went socialist today and started driving electric cars we'd only push back the inevitable a decade or so.

An authoritarian "communist" (I use quotes because I don't believe actual communism can be forced) society will degrade and grind to a halt the same way any system that has positions of power will as the power struggles ensue.

Communism doesn't imply pacificism. A decentralized anarcho-communist society with a culture that recognized and managed consistently bad actors before they had an opportunity to gain power, and was moneyless (as communism is) meaning those seeking power would have limited ability to pay anyone to back them up seems the only logical sustainable path.

This may seem like an impossibility, but it was arguably the way humanity existed for 200K years before the consistently bad actors got the upper hand, took power and used money to keep it.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialism and communism were interchangeable terms historically https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Etymology

[–] Whoresradish@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The main problem is that the exact meaning of communism and socialism and all of its derivatives has changed since its creation. Everyone ends up argueing over semantics and using no true scotsman fallacies.

https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/39009/democratic-socialism-vs-social-democracy

https://www.britannica.com/topic/communism