I really object to this idea that hallucinogens unlock some kind of higher plane of existence that can’t be experienced by people who don’t do these drugs.

If it were true that people who did hallucinogens did gain some kind of additional knowledge why is it they aren’t achieving things at some obviously higher rate?

If you want to use recreational or therapeutic drugs be my guest, just don’t come back telling me you’ve uncovered the secrets to the universe…

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What in the world..

They literally are tho. lol. What a wild take

"You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal fucking high on drugs. The Beatles were so fucking high they let Ringo sing a few tunes."

Bill Hicks

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you may be a little biased, Mr Psychodelic.

[–] cotus@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean I can honestly say for me that shrooms cured my depression. Not helped, not band aid fixed but cured (this was eight years ago). Not pushing any agenda here, just sharing my experience

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 4 points 2 weeks ago

there is real science of therapeutic effect to some people.

but like, you will harm a happy person if you give them an SSRI, with these things is hard to say how it will go.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I have no doubt there are therapeutic applications for hallucinogens and psychedelics just as much as there are recreational uses for those drugs as well.

My contention is really directed at those who think these are some kind of out of body spiritual hack to “unlock” knowledge.

It smacks of Joe Rogan nonsense.