I live in Ontario, and I feel like I'm living in a bubble, because not a single person I've talked to likes Drug Fraud, but Ontario voted this sack of shit thrice into the office. Everything feels like it's in fucking shambles: the housing, healthcare, education (all the levels!); anything public aside from fucking businesses.

But then again, there's also an insane amount of political apathy amongst my peers (I'm around 30). No one believes that their ability to vote means anything. I'm not allowed to vote (I'm a PR), and I have to find ways to tell my friends to go fucking vote. While it's true that if shit hits the fucking roof I can always just move out, it hurts me to just watch my friends suffer, especially when a number of them are teachers and nurses, and they recount the sad episodes of the kids in schools and the patients in hospitals not getting the care they need.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

No one cares that ridings are 100,000+ people. They should be at most 30,000 people. But, everybody has been convinced that politicians are bad, so we should have fewer of them.
Smaller ridings mean more democracy.
With a hundred thousand people in one riding, the majority of people haven't even met their representative. ...And Ford keeps making worse.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

But working in-office 4 days a week helps local businesses! Fuck off Doug Ford. I know he's done a bunch of other shitty things (this article for example) as well. But he should really just fuck off and die.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of the people who "don't like ford" still vote conservative to own the libs or something. I've met many who hate ford but still support the party.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The most common reason I've heard/read is "just look at what happened the last time we had a Liberal/NDP government in Ontario"

Then the details of why those governments were bad are usually about one tenth as bad as the current fuckery

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I've even had people blame other governments for things a conservative government did.

[–] Dalraz@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

The boomers love to point to Bob Rae as why they can't think for themselves.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

live in Ontario, and I feel like I'm living in a bubble, because not a single person I've talked to likes Drug Fraud,

same same with Ted Cruz down south of the border and yet reelected :) what a world!

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought he was just on his second term... Wtf

[–] Subscript5676@piefed.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He called an early election soon after Trump was elected to try get himself an even stronger majority while running on an anti-Trump platform, propping up himself as the only person who can go against Trump for Ontario (yeah, the facist-inspired playbook). He sort of succeeded at it, given that the cycle was short, there was rather little time for other parties to rally, a lot of people couldn't find the time to vote, and enough people bought into the idea that he can stand up to Trump despite people not actually liking him. The turnout was less than 50%.

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the voter turnout is fucking stupid. People who don't vote don't seem to understand that they are a big part of why he keeps getting in. They need to have it beat into them that their lack of a vote is a vote in favour of the elected party.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

I know a few. They love his populist policies like alcohol and getting rid of bike lanes.

It is hard to get my non-Ford supporting friends to vote. They'll typically ask me who to vote. Yeah it's hard for sure.

[+] beejboytyson@lemmy.world -6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Our country is conservative, we just don't go to church.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Its really not. If we had 100% voter turnout, the Conservatives would never be re-elected. Ever wonder why right-wing politics is so keen on voter suppression?

Yeah...

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Do you really think the liberals aren't conservative? How about when they help weaken unions or when they sent jobs to Mexico or when they the Japanese in prisons or when the sold our electric company in ontario? Tell me when we're they progressive?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

The thing is is that voting is easy here. There’s pretty much no reason why the voter turnout in Ontario for Ford should have been ~41% and ~45% except for people being lazy.

[–] PhoenixDog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Even if we fired FPTP into the sun, the Cons would never see power ever again.

Give me a ranked ballot or run off voting.

[–] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 day ago

If we had proportional representation, the conservatives would never be in power. Even though I think the apathetic non voting crowd leans more left, I think Doug's populism and marketing would certainly garner some votes if everyone were compelled to vote. And historically, they've really only needed 40% of the for to win.