Heres the link btw if you want to apply: https://www.notion.so/Join-our-Polycule-339ce84f25648043922be9551ed5b846
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In SF if you rent your own place it’s like $3000-4000.
Jesus christ! That's around the median monthly income in my country. And I come from a rich country.
My rent is around a fifth of that. Please tell me the $3000-4000 range is at least for a family apartment.
The majority of America its physically impossible to live by yourself with in an hours drive one way of any reasonable job.
You either have roommates, work two jobs, work remote and live so far out in bumfuck nowhere your basically a hermit.
Or you live in glorified squaller.
The average rent in the US is about 1600/mo, and the median household income is 83k/yr. Obviously these averages/medians will change dramatically when looking at individual places, but if you live in a major coastal city that's infamous for being unaffordable you will absolutely need roommates to afford rent.
However there's also plenty of major cities which are not unaffordable so while you can have your eyes pop out of your sockets looking at LA, SF, NYC, etc. Toledo OH or Milwaukee WI are just quietly going on about their day being relatively affordable places to live with plenty healthy local economies
I've looked at those sorts of cities, and honestly, it has yet to wind up proving practical once I run the numbers. Yeah, I could move to Indianapolis and have a much nicer apartment for the same money or less, but between wages generally being substantially lower and needing to purchase at least two cars to be able to get around in most of these places, it's always wound up where I would be tossing the roughly the same percentage of my income away between those two factors.
Like, I would be perfectly fine with moving away to a city where I took a paycut, but could afford a comparable apartment with a lower rent and rely on public transit or bike infrastructure to get around safely and quickly, but I haven't found anywhere that ticks those two boxes yet.
It really seems like something that only makes sense if you're taking an internal transfer and will be keeping your higher salary after moving inland.
I did this for a few years and miss my hermit life.
That's not entirely true. I pay less than $1k per month for my small one bedroom apartment and live within driving distance of a small city that has ok jobs. I'm not exactly thriving but i'm at least treading water.
Do jobs at least usually pay 10 grand or more per month there?
Yeah, tech jobs easily pay $200k-600k. A bad, low level tech job will still probably pay $120k. Some people are making $1M+, especially couples where both have tech jobs. This is why many people choose to live in California despite the cost of living. That said, if you aren’t in tech, it can be a struggle and that’s where you get people trying to cling to rent-controlled apartments and split rent 6-ways. This polycule is probably in part driven by housing costs and as most of them are young, they haven’t yet come to feel that living with 6 other people fucking sucks.