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[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is it actually true that americans love a corrupt government? they voted for it twice. I guess they believe theres a way to get in on the scam before it gets shut down.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Most of the country will just tell you they're "apolitical". They think none of it affects them directly. And even then, they don't want to have to pay attention, so they ignore a lot of shit.

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 52 points 1 day ago (4 children)

30% of the adult population voted for trump in 2024.

If we lived in a democracy, that would be a generational level defeat that may spell the end of the party, not deliver full control of both houses and the executive.

It's just a bit rich blaming voters in an oligarchy with no real representative mechanisms.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 5 points 18 hours ago

It doesn't matter what percentage voted for that obese orange cunt if the amount of people that chose to not vote, or protest vote, allows such a disgusting stumbling bag of genital herpes to become president (twice).

[–] WYLD_STALLYNS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was gonna say, the US president is decided by electoral college votes. The citizens votes only count in a tie, right?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Think of the Electoral College as simply a weighted sum of each state's Presidential Election. All the votes count the same, but only at the State level. Once a state goes for one candidate or the other, the popular vote is "converted" into EC votes.

The EC weighting is based on the state's total representation in Congress, and while the House is allocated (roughly) by population, each State gets two Senators. So, even the smallest states are guaranteed 3 EC votes.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The EC weighting is based on the state’s total representation in Congress,

Which, in and of itself, is bullshit since The House gives people in Wyoming something like 6x the voting power of people in California.

[–] jacecomix@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

"roughly" doing some heavy lifting in that sentence despite the parentheses

[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

A Wyomian has 80 times a Californians say in the presidential election.

I was going to insult Wyomians here but none of them would even read it.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I thought it was something like 6x? Still ridiculous.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

House Seats are reallocated based on population after each census. There's even an algorithm for it.

The real problem is that the size of the House has been fixed. It didn't use to be this way. They used to add seats after each census, but about 100 years ago they couldn't agree on how to add them, so they stopped, and the size of the House has been fixed since then.

So while the average district size is now around 750k, the smallest districts are in states like Rhode Island, where the population is in the 500k range, and they still get one House member. (But not all small states benefit: the largest district is Delaware's lone district, which has over 900k people in it but is not large enough to split in two yet.)

I bet if they had kept adding, there might be 575 or so members , with an average district size below 600k.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That is not true, the winner (in many if not most, certainly the red states) states give all of the EC votes to the winner that won by 1 vote. Completely throwing off any claim of any representation in those states. People's votes literally don't count there

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Well no, you miss my point. You need to look at the election just like any other State election. Harris won the election to be President in California, for instance, and Trump won the election to be President in Wyoming, by the normal rules every other election uses.

Its in the combination where people get shafted. Californians cast more than 15 million votes to determine 54 EC votes, or something like 278k votes per EC vote. But Wyoming only cast 262k votes total. Divided by their 3 EC votes it only took 88k votes to "count" for one EC vote.

So the votes count equally in each state, but when they are combined in the EC a Wyoming vote has over 3x more "power" than a California vote.

[–] Exatron@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

If no candidate gets a majority of electoral votes, congress decides. And it's not even each member gets a vote. Each state gets one vote with the house picking the president and the senate picking the vice president.

[–] shirasho@feddit.online 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then we had the 30% who had that ONE issue they couldn't accept Harris for and decided not to vote which implies they are fine with Trump or with their mental gymnastics think they have the moral high ground by not voting for either.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Also, Trump is worse on that issue.

In a democracy you really only have the voters to blame.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's all propaganda. Those that vote for the corrupt government are made to believe it's The Most Transparent and Best Government of Our Lifetimes™©® by scumbags like Sean Hannity and the like. Newsmax, Fox, OANN, literally only exist as propaganda outlets for the Republican party.

You ask any magoo about all the corruption and they'll look at you like you have 10 heads, say it's FaKe NeWs and then tell you how Biden actually stole $274,838,182,747,372.71 in taxpayers money from babies and then had them executed for being Christian.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

That anecdote is a little off, clearly it was all Hunter Biden doing it because he was actually running things and the real Joe Biden died so Hunter had to Weekend at Bernie's'd Biden until a suitable body double could be provided so he could get a pardon from all the crimes he was doing.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think Americans have a subconscious and unsatisfied royalty fetish. Look at all the princesses and princes in children's cartoons, Hallmark movies and books and so on. Almost every other country is culturally like "ehhh" about kings, but since Americans never had any, they keep edging themselves to these fantasies.

They're finally learning what comes with it, the abusive and unjustified allocation of power, but not everyone is learning the same lessons or at the same rate...

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

My parents love JFK Jr and Diana. Idk the former’s reasoning but it really is true that we love royalty