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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Income comparisons aside, what the fuck is this "journalism"???

The average new car in the ‌U.S. in March had a list price of $51,456, according to Kelley Blue Book.

In China, there are more than 200 battery-powered models, including hybrids, for sale at less than the equivalent of $25,000, according to DCar, an information and trading platform.

Reuters compiled a list of the five best-selling electric vehicles in China that start under $12,000 using ​DCar data.

Did they deliberately only look at the cheapest cars to compare to the average American car in order to get their headline? Like I could buy 10 shitboxes from the junkyard for the average price of a new car, but that doesn't mean much.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Show me how many NEW cars you can buy in the US for less then 25k.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

10 seconds on Google shows 3 under $25k, and 9 under $26k. I spent longer typing this comment than finding cheap cars XD

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

And the article lists 5 Chinese-made electric vehicles that are less than half that.

They would be closer in price if we had made trade agreements that required worker protections consistent with those in the US, instead of trying to bring every country on board with the US' idiotic copyright laws.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the headline should read "buys 2 cars in China"? Still a valid criticism.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I guess it is if you want to pretend that twice as expensive is acceptable instead of addressing the problem.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Addressing the problem of bad journalism? Because that was the criticism.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And the article lists 5 Chinese-made electric vehicles that are less than half that.

Sure, and the best quality stuff comes from TEMU.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Waves hands in vague direction of nearest Cybertruck

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did they deliberately only look at the cheapest cars

Seeing how the highest selling car a few years ago was the Wuling Hongguang, which starts at ~$5k, I don't think the authors have made any failure. If anything, they're short of the reality.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Wuling Hongguang

omg it's so cute

As much as I appreciate the charger "nose", that's a bad place to have it if you park close to the wall

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 18 points 3 days ago

As much as I appreciate the charger “nose”, that’s a bad place to have it if you park close to the wall

Chances are because that's such a small car, there would be ample space to park away from a wall and still remain within a standard car footprint.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

omg it's so cute

I know right?? I hate that we don't have affordable cutie electric cars like that in Europe :(

I never thought of the nose charger thing, something to consider definitely!

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One of my friends has an electric mini thats pretty sweet

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I bet it didn't cost 5k€ though

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

but I bet it goes fast enough to use on a highway. The Wuling is closer to a Kei car.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Must be nice to live in a country where your vehicle working is a more important consideration than your vehicle making you feel like a big boy.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago

It's actually a great place to have the charger, I had a Nissan leaf for a number of years and it's great not having to worry about the cord reaching when you're at a public (free) charger.

I have an ioniq now and the charge port on the back quarter panel is the worst place for it, since almost all pull forward parking spots have a cord that doesn't reach.

I have to awkwardly back into angled forward spots if I want to use the charger, and most fast chargers on the interstate aren't designed for a back end charge port either, so you kinda have to find a very specific angle to get the car parked to charge.

The middle front works in almost every situation.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 days ago

omg it’s so cute

And it doubles as a coffin. Pays for itself.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

look at the cheapest cars to compare to the average American car

But then the average American car isn't even electric...

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, this comparison is terrible they're purposefully putting an upper limit on price when comparing things. Not to mention that they aren't even looking at features and range of these cars.

Someone below mentions the "Wuling Hongguang", the top selling car in China apparently. While it's cheap, its max speed is 62mph and it has a range around 75 miles. Like of course that's cheap, and could work in some situations, but that's not comparable to any car sold in the US.

The more I read into things like this the more I realize that cars are just expensive. Sure China has a wider range of options, but when comparing apples to apples things look more similar than I'd expect.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

100% agree, I too could get a car with no speed and range for cheap. Why compare that with something decent, and then brag about price?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

These are sweet, and you can drive them on sidewalks! Try that with your Koenniggggsssegggg.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think they were looking at the average price for a new car. All the new American cars are on the more expensive side

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Someone's gotta pay for all that extra tech that the US Government is going to use to spy on you.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

my first thought is how many dozen eggs could you get for the average cost of a dozen eggs over here. things don't always measure up one to one. I remember people talking about great electronics being tossed in japan or korea.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

US average income being 6x China's was my first thought too, but then I got so fucking angry at how they fudge the numbers they're looking at for the headline.