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[–] Alberat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

you could buy 2 us cars for the average price of a us car (2 of the cheapest us cars). seems that China still has cheaper cars, but this article is biased in the title and article for some reason

[–] tio_bira@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Wow, in this case, the cheapest brazillian car can buy a whole fricking frigate of chinese cars

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Keep the car prices high, or its taxes and use the profits to fund public transportation?

[–] winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What about everyone that's not in a densely populated area?

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 52 minutes ago

Yeah, there are people who are living outside of the city because its affordable... Or, you know, you can plant trees in the yard. However.... Nearest Costco is 100 years away walking, and or you might not make it a couple of blocks during winter.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

But can't you also buy 5 American cars for the average price of American car? Just buy used 🤷‍♂️

[–] gilokee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

fr, I got a pre-owned 2008 Prius in like 2018 for $9k, used it for several years, then sold it to my brother, and it's still going strong. Used Toyotas ftw!

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

How much is that in big macs??

[–] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Football football or rugby with padding and helmets to avoid hurting the children football?

[–] Karmanopoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

The one where they kick and throw the ball and try to get past defenders to the other end

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 18 points 11 hours ago

This is why we have trade protectionism - tariffs, "made in X" laws, etc. - to ensure capitalists can continue to generate maximized profits, rather than having to compete with Chinese-made cars.

The oft-quoted argument is "well, we need to protect jobs" - well, tax the rich and subsidize it then, if those jobs are so important. Why should the working class pay the cost of protecting jobs (ensuring ongoing production for the benefit of the ruling class) in industries where capitalists continue to maximize profit?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

These comparisons are never not stupid:

  • Chinese work longer hours. The infamous 996 is real - 9am to 9pm six days per week
  • On average american salary is 3 times higher
  • Chinese take on much higher health risk from rare earth metals and manufacturing etc. to subsidize this pricing

I think Chinese EVs are awesome but I'd rather pay higher american sticker price but actually lower real cost.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The infamous 996 is real - 9am to 9pm six days per week

As opposed to... totally not being real in the US?

Technically it's mostly illegal in China, though of course various companies get around that. Average workweek in China is apparently 44.6 hours. This data is far from ideal, as the website itself points out, but at least it gives us some general idea.

According to this source, the Chinese work considerably longer hours than Americans. However, it should also be noted that workers in China get a lot more national holidays and better social protections than workers in the US.

On average american salary is 3 times higher

And everything is on average 6x more expensive. Made up number, but from what I've seen the actual one may be higher.

In China, you can eat every meal at a restaurant for as little as 5 USD a day. In the US you may be making 3x more money, but the same food would cost you closer to 75 USD, which is 15 times more expensive.

No tips included, since tipping doesn't exist outside of burgerland.

Chinese take on much higher health risk from rare earth metals and manufacturing etc. to subsidize this pricing

They mine it for companies all over the planet, including American ones. Everybody buys rare earths from China either because they're the cheapest or because they're the only ones available. It's not like China gets them cheap and the US has to pay 20x more due to safety regulations. Everybody buys them from China for cheap, regardless of their own safety laws.

I think Chinese EVs are awesome but I'd rather pay higher american sticker price but actually lower real cost.

What 'real cost' are you referring to here? American cars, not just EVs, are so expensive that almost nobody can afford them. In my country a BYD Dolphin Surf costs 50% less than the cheapest competing car, while still offering better range. How can it be cheaper to buy a more expensive car that performs worse?

[–] the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

China doing capitalism better than the US 🫡......America!.....Fuck yeah!! 😒

[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Wait until you learn that you're a likely a millionaire in a European city if you own a basic house. (which you can't sell of course, you need it for living)

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

Housing market is kinda fucked everywhere though.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 2 points 7 hours ago

Not sure where you get that claim from. Even here, in the Netherlands, where the housing market is through the roof, it's not that expensive to own a basic house (maybe it would be in Amsterdam but that's far from the average european city experience)

Unless "basic" for you means 4 bedrooms in the city center.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 50 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (25 children)

Income comparisons aside, what the fuck is this "journalism"???

The average new car in the ‌U.S. in March had a list price of $51,456, according to Kelley Blue Book.

In China, there are more than 200 battery-powered models, including hybrids, for sale at less than the equivalent of $25,000, according to DCar, an information and trading platform.

Reuters compiled a list of the five best-selling electric vehicles in China that start under $12,000 using ​DCar data.

Did they deliberately only look at the cheapest cars to compare to the average American car in order to get their headline? Like I could buy 10 shitboxes from the junkyard for the average price of a new car, but that doesn't mean much.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago

look at the cheapest cars to compare to the average American car

But then the average American car isn't even electric...

[–] billwashere@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Show me how many NEW cars you can buy in the US for less then 25k.

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