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Instead of trying to switch over to highly processed vegan product that tries to emulate beef or chicken using tons of additives and scientifically engineered flavours and textures .... why not just start eating actual wholesome vegetables and legumes with high protein content like lentils or beans.
If the cost of meat products is starting to match the cost of expensive meat substitutes ... it probably matches the cost of just eating expensive raw vegetables and beans too.
Humans have been eating high protein vegetables for centuries and it is way more healthier for you than whatever factory produced vegetable mash.
When vegans promote a whole food, plant based diet: "I will only switch when there are drop-in meat and dairy replacements"
Ok then I guess we'll develop drop-in meat replacements: "why emulate meat? So processed!"
It's amazing if you're into WFPB, it's one of the healthier diets out there. You're just not the target consumer of these meat replacements. But they're useful for some people to have a better choice. They're usually not unhealthier than the animal-based product they aim to replace (see meta analysis ).
Yep. The NOVA clowns can piss off, vegans were talking about whole foods long before they started the moral panic about UPFs.
Oh I know this one, it's pretty simple. Considering I at least try to give my meals some taste (by adding spices I feel like adding, theres no real skill or logic I use) I do realize that a lot of "western" people don't really know anything past salt and pepper, when it comes to meal preparation. At best maybe drown the food in some basic premade condiment like ketchup, mayo, etc.
So asking people to eat vegetables, just for them to turn around and say they taste bland and aren't worth it, and they don't know how to make it taste good or even try, is not going to get them to ditch meat.
Humans wanna eat stuff that satisfies more than just hunger now, you know that, unless they have absolutely no choice in what they eat. Nobody is gonna eat anything healthy when equally priced alternatives taste better and require less effort.
Salt, pepper, soy sauce, salt and herb mixes, vinegars. Yeah that covers most of it. At least the herbs I grow myself now, sage, garlic and rosemary
Most legumes have always been cheaper than meat