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I browse "All" most of the time and the Femcel Memes show up pretty regularly. It's not like this gif though. It's more like watching a super interesting science experiment.
"Ah, yes. I see. I see. How interesting!"
My scientific notes so far:
Who among us cannot say the same?
I just took an NFPA 70E electrical safety course, and the instructor was talking about how electricians love to cuddle.
I thought it was weird for a sec, then I remembered the last time I opened an electrical panel with someone else nearby. Then I remembered every other time I opened an electrical panel with other people nearby. Then I remembered all the times that I was all the other people nearby.
Then he showed us a video of an arc flash with 3 people inside the panel, and then there was nobody nearby.
Arc flashes are nature’s way of saying cuddle time is over.
You can crave cuddles and be disgusted by other human beings at the same time.
It's called I have a person, and only that person may touch me. And the cat. The cat too.
Until you wrote "I also have problems with my own limbs", I thought your sensitivity could be due to the warmth of other human bodies which some people find hard to deal with, indeed. But if you also have a constant "pins and needles" feeling and cannot even stand your own touch, so to speak, you might want to look into your sodium levels. It changed things a very great deal for me. Well, that and seriously reducing my caffeine intake.
In my case it helped greatly to tell others that i have a fear of human touch even though that was not accurate at all but others understood easier and knew what to dont.
[the rest you can skip, i got carried away a bit]
Then at some point i actually developed a fear without noticing: fear of the touch consequences. In retrospect it was very stressful with all the mindfulness to track everyones movements and directional intentions.
After switching schools i could not avoid others anymore and did go into confrontation therapy (handshakes & hugs, mostly worked because i was the one innitiating/controlling) which got rid of the hyperventilating panic and switched it to something mostly neutral and dependent to person. But except my bf and close family i dont seek out touches activly because i still feel it.
I definitely crave them.
When I was very young, I had a friend with the AIM name "BovineLover" (followed by a number I don't remember). They were how I learned the word "bovine." I haven't talked to them in almost thirty years.
I'm inclined to assume that you are they. Hopefully you've had a good thirty years!
Well I'm not even thirty, so I'm probably not him.
Straight guys can't say it. Not because they don't crave them, they just can't say that they do without social sanction. Everyone else apparently gets a pass though.
I'll say it; I crave cuddles.
Cuddles while watching TV is one of the only things that'll pull me away from my computer.
People who are touch averse.
Another note is that they seem to all be autistic, with many of them exhibiting symptoms of severe depression. Most are also trans lesbians. Many seem to be cat/fox/puppygirls.
Conclusion: headpats are in order
"Aw cute puppygirls!" head pats
"Ew gross incels, yuck!" social stigma
The difference being that the puppygirls aren't lashing out and demeaning others ... they're just bed rotting while watching yaoi
Lots of lonely guys aren't lashing out and demeaning others either, but people don't notice them because they're not lashing out and demeaning others. They still get labeled as incels though, and if they find that hurtful then people will absolutely shred them for it anyway.
Also, they'll be shamed for bed rotting, and shamed for watching yuri. No matter what they do, they'll be shamed for it. So it's honestly not surprising when a number of them end up lashing out.
Are people calling those who don't behave like assholes "incel" though?
And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?
It seems like you're applying a double standard, there.
Yes, people do call even the ones who aren't being assholes "incels." It's a derogatory term that gets used against anyone who doesn't get laid. Like calling someone a "virgin." It's shitty, and it promotes toxic masculinity. It also objectifies women by implying that men need to "get p***y" in order to be worthy of basic respect.
And I'm tired of hearing this excuse that "it doesn't refer to literal involuntary celibates, it refers to redpilled misogynistic jerks." But that simply isn't true, because people definitely apply it to literal "involuntary celibates" and use it as an insult like calling someone a "virgin." It's childish and immature. Also, there are lots of misogynistic jerks who get laid. Focusing all your ire on "incels" misses the point entirely, lets those people off the hook, and perpetuates the issue by communicating the subtext that "you can be a misogynistic jerk as long as you get laid, and then we'll still respect you." If you can't see how that's toxic and detrimental to society, then I can't help you.
They're more likely to be fetishized, which is bad in a different way. But it certainly hasn't risen to the level of a cultural pastime like shaming incels has.
I'm not the one applying a double-standard. I'm pointing out the double-standard.
I never said "femcels should be shamed, and incels shouldn't be."
I said "femcels don't get shamed the same way incels do."
If the former is how you interpret the latter, that's on you. If I need to explicitly state what I meant, it's closer to this:
"Maybe nobody should be shamed for being lonely and having poor social skills, regardless of gender."
If the issue is misogyny, target the misogyny. Not the inability to get sex, because that is going to do nothing to address the misogyny.
All well said and more articulate than I could pull off, bravo.
I've had to put a lot of thought into this over the years, because usually anything I say about it gets deflected into a strawman and then I just get called a redpilled incel and suddenly people assume that I'm making demands on women's bodies, when all I'm demanding is the same baseline level of respect that literally everyone else deserves.
So I have to navigate the argument very delicately, or else people assume I meant things that I didn't say.
And then people call you an incel anyway, because it's such an incel move to defend people who get called incels, and they didn't read the "wall of text" (a couple of paragraphs) anyway.
Hmm yes they often are even when they are just complaining that they disdain the situation. I don't know about women though I don't know that many that are bed rotting
The fact they're mostly trans take the appeal from me.
I mean, you don't have to be attracted to anything you're not attracted to. No one is saying "you have to like puppygirls!"
The point isn't to fetishize femcels. The point is that double-standards are a problem that maybe understandably lead to people feeling left behind by society.
Maybe "incels" have a legitimate reason for feeling discontent after all, and it's not "because women tell them no" like people claim. More like "because people ridicule them for being alone."
They'll be nice if you give them a pink monster and tell them they're a good girl.
I prefer white monster but yes
Please tell me you're talking about an energy drink.
just wait till you see the cuddle parties in vrchat with full body tracking hehe
(I'm the one with piece signs)
though, unfortunately not with the folks from femcel memes... :(
^cough cough !VRChat@sh.itjust.works cough cough^
Strange as fuck heh. Also, it's a rich person solution as well.