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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No wonder Putin is taking a pass on attending. It would make his time and location line up publicly.

[–] outandinburger@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Would killing him be bad or good?

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Was killing the Ayatollah good or bad?

Decapitation creates a power vacuum and may cause inferiors to act erratically in ways that harm all participants. Such as preventive or random strikes on foreign but not hostile nations. A invasion of e.g. the Baltics may be immediate.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

An attempt could happen anyway, but Ukraine's efforts have really made it less feasible.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

our optimism may be detached from reality. A us war declaration is all but guaranteed and there are too few NATO troops to repel an invasion before the fall of tallin. The economics of war are currently unfavorable when matching Russian and NATO forces. And economic disparity is not sufficient to be able to succeed at those odds since interceptors are bloody expensive.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

there are too few NATO troops to repel an invasion before the fall of tallin.

Realistically there are also not enough Russian troops available to start such an invasion. Not to talk about the fact that their logistics are too poor to not need months of very obvious troop concentration before even trying.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 2 points 8 hours ago

I don't want to leave you on read, but I am too sad to respond in any detail. Going to go dissociate for a minute.

[–] CAVOK@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Probably bad.

The reason why I doubt that Ukraine would attack Moscow on Victory Day is that the risk of killing innocents would be high, which could (would) make Russians rally around the flag.

I do like the threat though. Putin and Russia shouldn't be confident that Ukraine won't attack, which causes a dilemma for them.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 12 hours ago

which causes a dilemma for them.

And pulls air defenses away from the front lines.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Putin and Russia shouldn’t be confident that Ukraine won’t attack

A parade is still a parade, an attack would likely kill civilians attending and definitely be a warcrime.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But they could make a nice show with colored smoke.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago

Disrupting a parade with colored smoke is not a war crime. Blowing up a bunch of civilians at a parade is.

[–] RalfWausE_der_zwote@feddit.org 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly... i don't think that this would matter in this particular war anymore...

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

You still can't bomb parades.

[–] RalfWausE_der_zwote@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why? I mean... yeah, i see the strategic dangers of doing so (including making Putin something of a martyr), but otherwise? I think at this point in the war (or the world) nobody really cares any more about the rules and customs of war.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

No you still can't bomb a fucking parade what the fuck is wrong with you?

[–] RalfWausE_der_zwote@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, let me ask you a little question about history: Was it a war crime to bomb... say... the Ruhr valley in Germany during WWII?

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

With regular bombs targeting military factories and logistical hubs at night? No, because those are military targets and there was minimal risk to civilians. Firebombing residential areas? Absolutely.

The worst part is, killing shittons of civilians isn't even useful. When Germany shifted bombing from airfields and military targets to terror-bombing london, they gave the airfields and factories breathing room to rebuild the RAF and eventually win the battle of Britain. Murdering 20% of the population of Korea north of the 38th didn't allow the US to push up, poisoning the center of vietnam to cause a famine and sending B-52s to carpet bomb the north did nothing to break the Vietnamese resistance. Bombing hospitals and weddings in Afghanistan didn't make the Afghan people decide to stop resisting.

[–] RalfWausE_der_zwote@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

With regular bombs targeting military factories and logistical hubs at night? No, because those are military targets and there was minimal risk to civilians.

I bet - if she was still around - my grandma would have a good laugh at the "minimal risk" part...

But besides that: Bombing a parade where high ranking military personal and valuable military hardware is present is then surely ok - especially if you consider how much more precisely targeted a drone strike is compared to bombing raids in WWII

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Was your grandma german? My Grampa was in a B-17 lol.

As German as myself πŸ˜ƒ And to make this encounter even more funny: My Grandfather was head of a AAA crew...

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

I agree that the threat is a smart move. Either Russia command responds, showing the population that everything is not going as well as they pretend. Or they do nothing, in which case they have deal with the backlash of 'Oh, why did you do nothing, they told you they would do this' if Ukraine attacks.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

A power struggle within Russian command would almost certainly mess things up for the Russians on the battlefield

[–] spechter@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

Only one way to find out, I guess