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[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 2 days ago (4 children)
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If do contract work that's not even that much

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

True, then insurance and no time off or other benefits would suck.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

It's only "no time off" if that's what you want. It's time off whenever you want (and sometimes when you don't want).

Accurate. Source: 20 years solo.

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Contract work is rarely direct deposit, though?

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

US banking is weird. How would it be paid instead?

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I've never hired a software consultant, but most of the time when I hire a company or person to do contract work like roofing, gardening or similar they prefer to be paid by check. Sometimes they accept credit cards, but usually not when the bill is over a certain amount, due to the cut going to the card company.

Furthermore, "Direct Deposit" is basically a special term used for people getting their wages or salary paid to their bank account, as opposed to receiving it by check or cash. Other types of bank-to-bank transfers have different names, like "wire transfer" or "ACH transfer".

Americans love overcomplicating things in general, and particularly love using overly specific and technical names for stuff. There's acronyms everywhere, and things are named after weird technicalities. Like nobody says "retirement account", they call it "401(k)", named after the paragraph in the law which defines it.

You find stuff like that everywhere if you look. Some of their coins don't even have a value printed on them, you just have to memorize how much they're worth.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

In Europe (maybe also elsewhere outside the US?) nearly all transactions are simply direct bank transactions. Occasionally facilitated through some app, but usually it's just your own bank's app. Nobody has used checks for decades, and the only reason we're using credit cards is because the US keeps forcing them on us.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

You just have to memorize the coins

Plus they are not even logically ordered by size or anything.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Americans love overcomplicating things in general, and particularly love using overly specific and technical names for stuff. There’s acronyms everywhere, and things are named after weird technicalities. Like nobody says “retirement account”, they call it “401(k)”, named after the paragraph in the law which defines it.

As a plus, I can greatly confuse and terrify an Irish person by telling them about the thousands I send "to the old IRA" every year. 😂

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Depends on how you do ur billing but yeah it varies

[–] Kraiden@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A month!? I know it's regional but that's low for a monthly deposit for a contractor!

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're not accounting for taxes and insurance. You lose way more to both as a self employed individual (at least here in the states)

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you're a self employed contractor, you're taking taxes and insurance out yourself, not from what you'd be paid.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Exactly. When I was self employed, my monthly invoice was almost always in the 5 figures. From that you pay your VAT every quarter, save up for income taxes, pay all sorts of insurances, and what you've got left is a lot less, but the initial transfer looks very good.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not really sure what your point is. If I bill my guy 8k for the hours I did last month he sends me 8k. I then personally have to buy my own insurance and do my quarterly taxes

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right, which would happen after the direct deposit, so your entire tangent about taxes and insurance seems irrelevant to the meme and conversation involving the amount in the meme.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reread the thread mate. If you already know that contractos charge more then you shouldn't be this confused

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're the one that needs to reread. For real.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's crazy how missing a single word can spiral out like this. My b y'all

[–] tyler@programming.dev 19 points 2 days ago

Nah, that’s a normal paycheck for a medium level engineer in any American big city.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah that’s a very big monthly pay

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

$150,000/yr (yes big, less than median for software engineers in the US) is $2k/week, $8k/month

[–] kiagam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

8k/month is 96k/year. Just multiply by 12

[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

How dare you question his math?! He gets paid 96k /150k for that!

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 days ago

this is about a deposit so it’s take home

401k etc makes this fuzzy

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

They said the US. Ao mathing is hard.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

less than median for software engineers in the US

What

I’m moving there the second the orange guy gets thrown out of the White House

$2k/month is considered a very good salary in my country

Btw how does 8k/ month make 150k/year? Do you get bonuses or shares or whatever? I heard that they give shares to employees in the US

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If it's direct deposit, the $6k is probably for a two week pay period. That's the standard for most corporations in the US. Withholdings, including taxes and retirement accounts and health insurance, is going to take roughly 1/3, so this guy is making $9k x 26 = ~$235k (probably more like $250k/yr).

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

As far as I know, $150K isn't less than the median for software engineers in the entire US . It is less than the median for Senior/Lead Software Engineers though, so maybe that still works for you. In a HCOL city, you likely get far more than this amount, but it wouldn't go nearly as far obviously.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

no it's not. at least where i live, it's considered poor.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago