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Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.

Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union...

The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.

Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.

Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please tell me how a small group of scientologists have extraordinary influence or a little country like Israel does. Let's not pretend these things exist or that propaganda isn't incredibly successful.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Israel has extraordinary influence because it's backed by the US, Scientology is also from the US...

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That wasn't an answer.

Edit: for clarification you downplayed Russia's influence but these even smaller countries and groups also have a disportional ability to disseminate propaganda.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Scientology is a cult which rich people join because there are other rich people, it's a manifestation of class power. In the US it's Scientology, in Spain it's Opus Dei...

Israel I did provide an answer for.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thank you. Why does Israel, that has the 1/4 the economy of Russia, able to effectively disseminate propaganda.

Is Russia not capable of making propaganda?

https://russiapost.info/politics/propaganda_machine

After researching it appears Russia has a very robust and effective propaganda machine. Why are you downplaying their success?

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Why does Israel, that has the 1/4 the economy of Russia, able to effectively disseminate propaganda.

Because Israel is funded by the USA and has deep interconnections with USA's intelligence apparatus. It's fundamentally integrated into the USA's propaganda machine and supported by the USA's vast vast network of intelligence, propaganda, corporate control over the media, and dark money.

[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to Russia.Post, an expert journalism platform of The Russia Program at the George Washington University

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Riverside@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Russia certainly attempts to have a robust propaganda system, and their propaganda certainly works within Russia. However, all states have propaganda systems, and Russia's isn't particularly strong. Evidence for that is that you're sourcing your information without any awareness from some George Washington. It's literally the Soviet joke:

An American spy and a Soviet spy are sharing a drink
A: Your propaganda program is incredible! Truly sophisticated stuff. I tell you, we at the CIA are in awe.
S: Thanks friend but our propaganda has nothing on yours.
A: Comrade, I don't mean to disrespect you, but there's no propaganda in the US.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is university level shit not some gossip newsrag, so I am going to have to call bullshit on your point of view.

I am very aware of that joke as I heard it over thirty years ago originally when the USSR still existed. It was mildy funny back then. Now, it just shows your are some washed up wanna-be communist.

I am glad you admit to the truth. Still not sure why you downplayed the fact. I suppose it helps reinforce your worldview when you have obviously fallen for their "not strong" propaganda. Have fun denazifying the Ukraine from NATO's agression!