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We have NEVER cancelled an election in this country, not during WWII, not even during the Civil War. Cancelling an election is a BRIGHT RED LINE, that will not be crossed. If it is, it is INSTANT Civil War.
I will not recognize an unelected MAGA government.
Who is gonna lead a civil war? You? I have trouble believing it will happen because so many lines have been crossed already that should have led to revolution and hasn't
Are you in third grade? Is that the depths of your intelligence, that when someone makes a suggestion, the best you can do is shoot it down because the person making the suggestion can't implement it? That means that the ONLY people who can make suggestions about our future are those who can actually make their suggestions happen, like Sociopathic Oligarchs. That's what your dumb comment translates as.
No, I'm not going to lead a Civil War, that's not my skill set. But that doesn't mean I can't identify those who do have that skill set.
What do you think all those knowledgeable, experienced military leaders that Hegseth and Trump fired are doing?
Who knows? We haven't heard a peep from ANY of them. After a lifetime of navigating one of the most difficult career tracks in the world, getting to the highest reaches of power, motivated not by money, but by the personal mission of protecting America from ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, they seem to have disappeared.
The greatest domestic national security threat since the Civil War has taken over the nation, and gotten rid of them, so they can't thwart MAGA's treasonous plans. Surely, those military leaders have accepted their ignominious firings, which were accompanied by public disparagement of themselves and the jobs they invested their entire lives in doing, and are sitting on the veranda, drinking cocktails, and watching the sun set on the nation that they failed to protect, right?
I doubt it. Some were probably willing to chuck it all, and get on with retirement, but these are guys who have lived their entire lives literally waiting and planning for the next fight. These are NOT guys who give up easy. I would bet that at least a few of them are talking to each other, and creating some sort of plan if a Civil War breaks out, and we aren't going to hear a word about it until it happens
If there's a Civil War, military leadership will NOT be a problem, we have no end of great military leadership on our side. I suspect the military leadership on their side isn't as loyal as they assume, and since they've fired all the moral competence, much of what is left is corrupt incompetence. Many of them will be able to be just bought off, MAGA's Achille's Heel.
The problem will be Civil Leadership. In a situation like a spontaneous Civil War, rebel leadership will most likely default to the current leadership, which means the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries will be the headliners, and that would be disastrous.
Weak Civil leadership (and it doesn't get any weaker than Schmuck & Jeffries), will only lead to a Military takeover, and having a Military Dictator wouldn't be any better than a Capitalist Dictator. We need to identify and support leadership candidates that we can count on in a Civil War. So far, about the only only ones showing any real leadership strength are the progressives, and those who instructed the military to ignore illegal orders. Those are the kinds of people who should be in charge.
If I had to pick one that I would trust to lead us in a Civil War, one who understands both the political and military sides of the conflict, I think the best choice might be Mark Kelly. He's got the military experience, is extremely intelligent, not a whiff of corruption in his entire career, and he's tough enough, and brave enough, to go toe-to-toe with MAGA, and not back down.
If Mark Kelly emerged as the defacto leader, with a competent military led by MAGA's cast-off officers, I'd be on board with that Rebellion.
Every non Republican since 2016 has been hoping that someone is gonna come somehow and save the US from Trump. We're in 2026, Trump is still president and nothing seems to push back against him.
I don't believe in a sudden revolutionary surge in the US. Shit's gonna get worse, slowly, irrevocably, unless the general population develop some sense of solidarity and there's real political involvement from the population at every level. But that's hard in a population as divided as the United States'.
Americans have been carefully socialized to be polite, and "wait and see."
But we have also been raised since the beginning on tales of underdog Revolutionaries, winning against the mightiest army in human history, and going on to become the mightiest nation in human history. That is a strong thread running through our national DNA.
We have put up with a lot, counting on our system of government to get us through this mess, and we only have two more elections to get through, and we will know where we stand. There is an excellent chance that the Dems will prevail, and if can convince our elected leaders to do their jobs (I know, I hear ya), we could actually take back this country, and reconfigure it to reflect the original promises of our Founding Fathers, and our Founding Documents. It will be since in a century opportunity, and we can't squander it this time, again.
But if MAGA cancels elections, that's a BRIGHT RED LINE that has never been crossed in our history. It literally means the end of American Democracy. If we won't fight for that, then we deserve to lose it.
But it won't just be the Cancellation of Elections that will motivate people. That would mean that MAGA has finally decided to deploy their final end game, and become a Dictatorship. That will be accompanied by such a brutal crackdown, that nobody will remain polite anymore. All it will take will be one or two serious violent uprisings in which MAGAs are harshly punished, with either little retaliation, or, over the top retaliation, and it will break loose everywhere.
It will take a lot before the dam breaks, but it will break eventually, and when it does, it will be really ugly for MAGA.
You didn't make a suggestion, you made a prediction. I'm saying I don't believe civil war is inevitable if the election is cancelled. So many things have already happened that should have inevitably led to revolution and hasn't. If these guys are planning one, I want to know what they're waiting for
We we are waiting for the results of the next two elections, and the MAGA response to those elections. That will determine next steps.
Civil War following the cancellation of elections, is NOT a prediction or a suggestion. It is literally the automatic result of the cancellation of elections. If that happens, it invalidates our system of government, which is ENTIRELY built on the concept of elected representation. Cancel elections, and you are unilaterally ending American Democracy, and we are in a Civil War, by default.
They should be fighting back NOW, not waiting until its too late
We are fighting back, making sure we have as free an election as we can have in November.
That hasn't always been the case. In 2016 and 2024, the Dem leadership did absolutely nothing about the obvious election interference that was happening directly in front their faces, as well as ignored the increasing treasonous rhetoric, the Epstein Files, corruption, treason, etc. They prioritized politeness over defending their country.
At least now the elected Dems are starting to match MAGA energy wherever possible. They are stating to ignore Dem leadership, and doing what we want. It is unlikely that Jeffries will survive as Speaker, and Schmuck is already dead in the water. He's only staying on to keep insider trading, and shill for Israel.
Violence is a legitimate option, but it is an inappropriate choice when we still have legitimate Constitutional checkpoints to make it through first. If those checkpoints fail due to MAGA interference, THEN violence becomes the appropriate option.
Or you could fight back NOW before fascism fully takes over and it might be too late
I just said that we ARE fighting back, just not with violence. The Dems are doing lots of things, some are succeeding (like keeping the message on corruption, the Epstein Files, and the AmerIsraeli War), some aren't (redistricting), but they are definitely pushing much harder than we've seen in the past.
Look at how many special elections around the country that have flipped from Red to Blue. Every one of those flips was a ferocious FIGHT.
The Dems are winning far more than they are losing, and that's all due to the increased level of resistance. You want VIOLENCE, but that would be seriously counterproductive at this stage.
MAGA believe in violence, because they are too stupid to figure out any other way. We are smarter than they are, by a long ways, and we can outsmart them for now, and hold the Violence Option for when all other options have run out.
No, civil war isn't the automatic consequence of ending democracy. Civil war requires people willing and able to fight it. The automatic consequence of ending democracy is dictatorship
Well, we know YOU are too cowardly too defend your country. I hope you like the taste of MAGA boots, since your tongue will be on a lot of them.
Where do you get the idea I'm saying not to fight? I'm saying hurry up and get to it before it's too late
You're the one saying that a Civil War won't happen, so you are advocating for not fighting.
I'm saying it is still on the list of options, but there are better options at this stage. I'm ready to go, when the time is right.
I see, you've confused predicting what will happen with saying what should happen. I want Americans to fight back. I'm saying there's no reason to believe it's an inevitability. It should already be happening. The fact that it's not gives me the idea it won't. People keep saying if this next thing happens, it'll lead to civil war and then it happens and there's still no civil war, they just say but if the next thing happens surely that will lead to civil war
And like I've said, it IS happening, we are fighting back, but we aren't choosing violence at this stage, and foreigners don't get it.
There are other ways to fight back in America, and MOST of them are more effective than violence. Winning the Midterm election will have a MUCH larger negative impact on MAGA than unorganized and unmanaged violence. That would just be counterproductive at this stage.
Only if MAGA comes to Canada
Oh, I get it, another foreigner who doesn't understand anything about our government pushing for violence that would kill thousands, and empower MAGA to go full-on dictatorship, and then kill millions.
Bottom Line: Nobody in America, MAGA or not, cares what you foreigners think. None of you get it.