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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Oh god... Star Trek just got... I dont even know how to describe what had been done to it.

Basically star Trek died after ST: Enterprise

Anything after that was vapid shitty pew pew cgi flare fest sci-fi, and the Picard series ruined TNG for me for years. I used to watch ST at least a few times per week, DS9, TNG, mostly. After ST :Picard i stopped. I couldn't anymore, it was ruined for so fucking long

But there was a small ray of light, though

Watch "The Orville", it's made by Seth McFarlane after he rejected what the execs wanted for star Trek. It's basically TNG updated for the 2020s and the first two seasons are amazing and have a BOBW episode, even, and hell, even a "family" type episode after. Seriously, it looks and feels like modern TNG, has great episodes like TNG used to have. The third season kinda went the pew pew direction as well, very few very long episodes where the good writing got replaced with loads of CGI, but it's still doable.

There isn't a fourth season, yet, anyway, but Seth recently said he is finishing writing the fourth season, let's see what happens

Those first two seasons though, are star Trek magic, the Orville magic

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Basically star Trek died after ST: Enterprise

Many trekkies said that Trek couldn't be a Saturday morning cartoon and that after TAS would never survive, there are people who said that after TNG came out star trek was dead because the captain was bald, and some people who said DS9 killed it as a space station was not exploring, then some people complained that VOY killed it because the ship had infinite torpedos and a lot of people said ENT was the franchise's death knell because touch screens, and OMG what did JJ Abrams do? After DSC came out some people said Star Trek was over because people dont cry in space, After PIC came out some people said it ruined everything that came before because space captains can't change, some people said that LDS was turning ST into Rick and Morty fan wank, a horde of people said that PRO was trying to be be Clone Wars and that it gave the franchise a terminal diagnosis, it was the consensus of many fans that SNW was shitting on the memory of Kirk and crew, a loud group of trek consumers suggested that there couldnt be female Jem'Hadar and therefore SFA caused the franchise to flatline...

Yet there is more trek in development, that will be loved by some and derided by many

*edit: Section 31 definitely murdered the franchise because Rachel Garrett something something, irish vulcan space robots?

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

First, The Orville is excellent and for anyone who watches Trek I always recommend The Orville. It's a little crude when it starts, but it's levels out and is really great.

Second, since you didn't mention it, Strange New Worlds is the modern Star Trek in universe show you're looking for.