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[–] teft@piefed.social 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

And what idiot always ties the damn transporter systems to the holodeck systems? Seems like people who believe in tertiary backups would have firewalled every system so when the holodecks go all Moriarty-y you can still beam people out.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Firewall?

One of the earliest commercially successful firewall and network address translation (NAT) products was the PIX (Private Internet eXchange) Firewall, invented in 1994 by Network Translation Inc.

Star Trek TNG: 1987-1994

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Before that there were fire-resistant barriers used to prevent the spread of fire within buildings, or you know, firewalls.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah, an actual wall. Most computer terms they lean on older terms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firewall_(construction)

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

awww i was looking for a chance to show off my pathetic knowledge of rockwool. i looked up rockwool once dudes.

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My point was that it’s also like a blanket term for confining some disaster, not just a technical term used to protect internet connections.

For the Star Trek specific case I’m not sure how it would be best implemented, but I guess if some system fails it wouldn’t cause a cascading catastrophe when ”firewalling” was done correctly.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t think they are tied, more like they use the same type of tech to do different things.

[–] teft@piefed.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean tied together in the way that often when the holodeck is messing up the transporters also fail so they can't just beam people out. I know it's plot reasons but in universe that engineer should be fired.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't know. If holodeck tech is constantly manifesting and removing matter from the holodeck I can imagine having an external transporter system trying to resolve stuff in that shifting mess would be quite tricky even with those Heisenberg compensators.

I only remember having that happen once, and only because the transporters failed and cardie engineering dumped their patterns to the only place that had enough memory