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And what idiot always ties the damn transporter systems to the holodeck systems? Seems like people who believe in tertiary backups would have firewalled every system so when the holodecks go all Moriarty-y you can still beam people out.
Firewall?
One of the earliest commercially successful firewall and network address translation (NAT) products was the PIX (Private Internet eXchange) Firewall, invented in 1994 by Network Translation Inc.
Star Trek TNG: 1987-1994
Before that there were fire-resistant barriers used to prevent the spread of fire within buildings, or you know, firewalls.
you mean insulation?
Nah, an actual wall. Most computer terms they lean on older terms
awww i was looking for a chance to show off my pathetic knowledge of rockwool. i looked up rockwool once dudes.
My point was that it’s also like a blanket term for confining some disaster, not just a technical term used to protect internet connections.
For the Star Trek specific case I’m not sure how it would be best implemented, but I guess if some system fails it wouldn’t cause a cascading catastrophe when ”firewalling” was done correctly.
I don’t think they are tied, more like they use the same type of tech to do different things.
I mean tied together in the way that often when the holodeck is messing up the transporters also fail so they can't just beam people out. I know it's plot reasons but in universe that engineer should be fired.
I don't know. If holodeck tech is constantly manifesting and removing matter from the holodeck I can imagine having an external transporter system trying to resolve stuff in that shifting mess would be quite tricky even with those Heisenberg compensators.
I only remember having that happen once, and only because the transporters failed and cardie engineering dumped their patterns to the only place that had enough memory
The saucer section release is busted or whatever.
When I was just a child I received a small metal Enterprise D as a Christmas present. The saucer section did detach… once. After that it jammed and literally nobody in my family could get it apart again.
At least it was accurate to the show?
I choose to believe a mad Trekkie toy engineer deliberately designed the toy to do this.
I mean, nobody wants to admit they replicated 9 cans of ravioli
Right into my veins, please. I love holodeck episodes.
Honestly, the lizard nazi 2-parter was a bit too much for me.
Heh - that's the next episode on my Voyager watch through with the family. They already think Janeway is badass so I think they will be up for her fighting space Nazis.
"Coffee instead of Earl Grey. Tons of it."
Is probably the ~~best~~ shortest way of summing her up, in Star Trek lore.
Now are we talking the times they fought Nazi allegories, or that time they literally fought aliens dressed as Nazis? 😂
or the time she went back in time and fought real nazis? i forget. star trek has gotten weird
That's not the case for the TNG Moriarty episodes. They ask the computer to create a villain that could defeat Data and the holodeck functions flawlessly to pull that off.
And then SNW did almost the same thing
It's been awhile since I've seen the episode: they don't establish any weird situation that made the computer malfunction or something? Why is Data considered special if apparently any ship has a computer capable of creating a new sapient/intelligent person after working on it for a day?
The holideck on the Enterprise was special, the Binars upgraded it in the early episode 11001001.
I think there's a matter of scale to consider. The computing capabilities of a starship (and possibly more) have been crammed into a humanoid form.
Soong worked some miniaturization magic to create Data.
Edit: spelling
Doesn't Moriarty get sent off in a shuttle at the end of the episode? I don't think the full Enterprise's computer is needed to run his mind, but even still it's still strange you don't see more sapient artificial life if it's apparently this easy to make. Data getting put on "trial" for his personhood shouldn't have been a thing because the Federation should be swimming with artificial people, maybe just in a larger form factor.
There have been at least a couple more episodes where they play with the idea that holodeck characters could be sapient without spelling it out the way they did with Moriarty. Plus, both DS9 and Voyager have definitively sapient hologram characters.
It's not "any ship." This is a Starfleet galaxy-class flagship we're talking about. You never truly learn whether or not
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Moriarty is truly sentient. But if Data was created, it can feasibly happen again in the same universe.
In the later episode, the computer simulates
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the ship, staff, and another holodeck. So while they think they're interacting with the rest of the crew to solve the mystery, they are really just in the holodeck.
"Is Q in it?"
Bruh, we got
Q
In the malfunctioning holodeck
With a quirky transporter
Cameo by The Doctor (hologram Dr, not that one)
Oops Holodeck version of beloved secondary cast member set to "spicy"
Time loop entirely contained in the Holodeck - but if you just walk out, you die.
Late 20th century theme???! Crazy!
Oops Holodeck version of beloved secondary cast member set to “spicy”
Lower Decks did this trope the best:
“Our Man Bashir” asks “Why not both?”
Just the silliest there is.
You can go to any era or place but it'll be Earth in the mid 19th century we bet, even the other alien races just can't wait to cool off in resistance-era Nazi Germany.
Haha, of course not, how stereotypical.
It’s tribbles!
My wacky idea episode is a holodeck episode, but the twist is that nothing goes wrong.
Also it's just Bashir and Garak having sex the entire 45 minutes while Barclay watches and makes commentary.
hey mine was a transporter malfunction where they get stuck in the beam for 45 minutes, bashir and garak have hot sweaty nasty lizard sex the entire time while barclay turns into a fish and watches
BREAKING: US naval aircraft carrier nearly sunk after rampaging zombies burst out of movie screen on flight deck, violating all known physics principles of how movie screens work. Crew deals with zombies and captain says nightly movies will continue.
Does it involve a 'tuvix' scenario?
At this point today, I'm suprised this isn't loss.