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You and I seem to have the same opinion about this.
Feminism has basically been co opted into a kind of psuedo liberal, privileged, socially acceptable because it calls itself feminism, form of misandry.
Like this OP image person would be the same person who would likely call a straight dude gay, as an insult, because he declined a second date with her.
Its wild because... like... these people are ostensibly 'liberal', they'll tell you they are, but they're actually not.
They believe in the concept of equal rights and opportunity, universally, for all... to the same the same extent that conservatives believe in Democracy or States Rights.
They don't actually believe in them.
They believe in them as rheotically useful dialects to speak about things from... but they don't actually believe in the actual principles.
Like we've gotten to the point in politics and society where everyone is so thoroughly full of shit, that we have an illiberal center, roughly, that then just pantomimes different flavors of rhetorical style... and then on the extreme ends you have people that actually believe in any principles beyond 'Im awesome and my team rocks'.
We are so fucking cooked lol, the owners have divided and conquered our minds extremely thoroughly.
I don't think we're quite as similar as you might think because I do take issue with the semantic framing made here. If it contains any form of gender discrimination, it's NOT feminism, full stop. I don't think the rise of casual discrimination against men is something done consciously, but rather a poor interpretation and extrapolation of female rage. Rather than a deliberate sabotage of feminist philosophy, this is just another example of people having no fucking clue what they're talking about in any field of philosophy, and a further illustration of the great divide between pop-philosophy and where actual academic philosophy stands today. I deliberately used the example of the term "mansplaining", since this is a term that absolutely did not come from feminist philosophy and illustrates how pop-philosophy completely misses the point. It's stupid team-sport bullshit that doesn't belong in philosophy of social justice.
There are far fewer legitimate believers in the anti-men movement than it appears, especially on the internet. The problem, hence my rant, lies in the rhetorical drift of platformed "feminism" of the democratic party in America. As someone else was quite apt to point out, it's another corrupted offering of capitalism. To "empower" women to be "girl-bosses", "queens", and "ackshually gurls rool da wurld". It's the system trying to pit us against one another yet again via some kinda 'gender competition'. My frustration is in the very real effect this rhetorical bullshit has made on younger generations of men pivoting hard to the right and some into the arms of the "manosphere". Liberals once again aiding fascists.
And what is honestly my biggest contention with your take; we're not cooked. That's silly. All this bullshit? This too shall pass. Legitimate feminism continues to gain ground and put in the hard work. Many men's liberation movements are beginning to find they actually have fundamentally mutual goals with feminists and are joining the fight. The dipshit ruling class is getting dumber, lazier, and more complacent than ever. More people are joining the fight, and boy has the media been quiet about just how big, angry, and unified the people have gotten. I don't rage about this shit because it's losing us the fight, I rage because a better future has never looked so clear and worth fighting for.
Has it? Or is this just what people opposed to actual feminism claim feminism is all about?
There is a feminist subgroup here on lemmy and it does not look anything like this post.
There are many people who call themselves feminists who fit the description I gave.
Lemmy is not the entire world.
If those people aren't real feminists to you, then you and I agree.
But the word has become multifarious and muddled, leading to mass confusion and needless hostility.
"Many people" who behave like this and call themselves feminist does not mean "Feminism has basically been co opted".
My point is that there are groups of political actors that either fabricate or boost the few examples of this type of behaviour to radicalize young and impressionable men into right winged behaviour/spaces.
So can making a post claiming that this is predominant behaviour, or that this is something that should redefine feminism.
Can you name a single famous or culturally significant misandrist that a non terminally online individual would know? Because I could name quite a few famous and culturally significant/powerful men who are actively misogynist on a daily basis.
No actually that is basically what co-opting is or means.
Who said this was 'predominant' behavior, of all feminists?
Not me.
Who claimed that the definition I gave was of what I consider real feminism?
I specifically set it apart, gave it a new conceptual descriptive name, as well as definition.
Nobody at any point said that misogyny is not a prevalent problem as well, with very prominent proponents.
I'm not gonna be talking to you anymore, because you're apparently not capable of engaging in this discussion in good faith, you're either consciously or unconsciously putting a crap ton of words into my mouth that I did not say.
To successfully take over or assimilate something you typically require more representation than the opposition. You claiming that feminism has been co-opted implies that there are a large number of people behaving this way.
I'm guessing you don't have an answer for this?