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Christian right calls James Talarico "demonic" — for quoting Jesus (www.salon.com)

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James Talarico has been found guilty of quoting Jesus. The sentence he uttered, according to right-wing media, was “demonic” and “blasphemous,” exposing him as a “fake Christian.” Talarico is running for the U.S. Senate in Texas on a platform The New Yorker recently described as basically the New Testament. One Newsmax host accused him of using fake Bible passages.

The passages in question are familiar ones, found in Matthew 22 and Matthew 25. Love God and love your neighbor. Feed the hungry, heal the sick, welcome the stranger. They are, in fact, in the Bible.

The right’s attacks on Talarico aren’t about him, or at least not entirely. They’re about a much older argument — one progressive Christianity has been losing in public for 50 years — about whose version of the faith gets to count as real. The answer to that question has consequences far beyond any Senate race. When Christianity becomes a tool of power rather than a challenge to it, it doesn’t just damage the church. It destabilizes democracy. We are watching that happen in real time.

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

That's not a quotation, that's a paraphrase. What did Talarico specifically say that people reacted to? Was it the actual verses? If so, which translation (using a modern-language translation alone could draw that condemnation from some commenters).

It quoted Talarico, at a different event, saying "Politics is just another word for how you treat your neighbors", but that's not the thing they were reacting to.

I'm curious to know specifically what he said that pissed people off, because the details are important when you're popcorning monotheistic textual sectarian religious spats.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

If so, which translation (using a modern-language translation alone could draw that condemnation from some commenters).

Yeah I'm sure Fox News is hotly debating the merits of Hebrew vs Aramaic vs Greek.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

using a modern-language translation alone could draw that condemnation from some commenters

You're hinting that it's in some sense invalid to quote the New Testament in some other language than Greek or something?!

I think you want to scrape the bark off two trees in the hope that once you're done people won't see the forest.

[–] DaleGribble88@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

There is a pretty significant portion of America Christians who believe than any translation besides the 1611 King James version of the Bible is blasphemous, nevermind that they are probably reading the 1769 version, but what matters is what think is the 1611 version.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

So what's your position, that there's a possibility that he did say something demonic and its all being misconstrued to make people "feel good?" For someone who's so interested in 'just asking questions,' you don't seem very interested in finding answers.

The article links to the sources of this controversy in the very first paragraph by the way.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

RTFB[ible]. It says which passages were quoted; look them up yourself if you're that fucking worried about it!

At least, that's what you would do if you were actually "curious" and not concern trolling.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I went to Episcopal school and Matthew is the only book I actually liked. But ok sure.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

Then why were you even asking when you already knew?

Your bitching was like complaining about a footnote citation because they didn't copy and paste the entire referenced work into the middle of the article for you.