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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No that would be factually untrue.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except for all the parts in the world that have proven it true. No, you should just keep your head in the sand and rely purely on hope that someone you know won't be killed.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No that’s why I teach them gun safety and marksmanship.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Children shouldn't be using guns.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Children shouldn’t be using guns without adult supervision.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Young children shouldn't be using guns at all. Teenagers should only be using guns at authorised shooting ranges with direct 1 to 1 supervision with a trained and certified staff member - not just any adult or parent at home.

There is no need to play with guns, and the risk of harm to others is grossly disproportionate to your desire to have a bit of fun. Your freedom for fun impinges on the freedoms of others to merely be alive and healthy, thus your freedom should be heavily restrained in this instance.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My 2A freedom doesn’t impinge upon you in any way shape or form. You can’t preemptively charge people for crimes you’ve imagined.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Statiscally, there is a significant possibility that it will. In many states, stand your ground laws would let you get away with killing someone even if they were unarmed and not physically violent towards you.

No one's saying you should be charged with a crime, however measures need to be taken to ensure public safety overall. The 2nd Amendment shouldn't supercede the right to life, and yet it directly facilitates loss of life.

How many mass shootings do other Western countries have? What's different in how they handle guns under law? The flaws are glaringly obvious, yet you cling to them out of nothing but pure selfishness.

You don't need guns, you want them, but people need to live and are dying because of how prevalent guns are.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have a 2A right to firearms. It’s just as important as my 1A, 4A or any other rights I have under the constitution. You might not take all your right’s seriously or choose to exercise them. That is your choice.

However you don’t have the right to infringe upon other citizens rights. If you seek to take them away or regulate them, expect opposition.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about the 13th amendment? Do you support using Americans for slave labor?

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're in favor of slavery lol? Wtf?

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don’t know how to read and comprehend English? WTF?!?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No I do, you said your unequivocally in favor of using slavery. That's fucked up bro, I hope you get some help.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you specify where I was in favor of slavery? Here is my exact quote below:

You mean the 13th amendment that abolished slave labor except as punishment for a crime? That 13th amendment? If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You mean the 13th amendment If yes then, unequivocal yes I’m in favor of it.

  • you

You support modern day slavery in America.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wow we are so close here, now read what the 13th amendment states.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

The Thirteenth Amendment (Amendment XIII) to the United States Constitution abolished slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm very familiar dude. You're defending using slavery as a punishment for a crime. You also know the US has the most non violent offenders of any country to ever exist? Sounds like a lot of slaves.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Sounds like a lot of criminals. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why are your 2nd Amendment rights important?

Specifically, why is it more important than all the deaths very clearly causes?

Congress absolutely does have the right to regulate and remove your rights. They do it all the time.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of my right are important. I and many more like will not simply give them up when we have done no wrong. There are literally millions of gun owners who go about their lives without hurting anyone. It’s been proven statistically that licensed conceal and carry are the safest most law abiding segment of the population. Depending on what state you have probably walked by hundreds of people carrying guns and never knew about it.

It’s been repeatedly proven in recent court cases that states or congress do not have the right to pass restrictions on 2A. If you want to change that go ahead and try to pass an amendment repealing the 2A.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But why is it important for you to have guns?

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t need a reason. I simply have the right to own them under the constitution.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

No, you said that all your rights were important, and compared it to rights that obviously are important. I'm saying that the right to have guns is nowhere near as important as the right to free speech. I'm asking you to justify the statement you made.

Why is it important for you to have the right to own and use guns with no meaningful restrictions?

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Why not? Kids hunt where I live.