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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

There’s also a broader implication here.

If the US ever goes to war with China (by necessity it choice), for the foreseeable future all China has to do is have their ally choke off the strait of Hormuz and the US will crumple in months.

The reason the US is surrendering is because they are about to lose oil production capacity domestically; they hit the threshold of not enough oil to pressurize domestic pipelines.

That happened because they never filled the strategic reserve, and lashed out at any price increases, and bragged about how they can now sell so much extra oil now.

So any conflict with China will utterly destroy the US (and world) economy. The US is too far into late stage capitalism to ween off oil, so they’re fucked by their own choices.

The US is now officially unable to combat China.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And that's ignoring that a war with China will mean access to the world's factory will be cut off, meaning shelves in stores will go bare and prices will skyrocket even more for things produced outside of China (assuming China isn't involved in some way in another part of that supply chain).

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 14 minutes ago

The notion of us (the US) winning a real war when we don't fucking make anything any more is beyond ludicrous. We won WWII (and WWI for that matter) because we made nearly fucking everything at the time. And whatever we didn't make we could have made if necessary.