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There it is. The pearl clutching over capitalism. They aren't spending money on buying starter homes!!
Honestly, multi-generational living can be really beneficial. Just not for capitalists.
I grew up in a house with my grandmother, and she was an incredible boon to my parents in taking care of us, plus she stayed surrounded by people who loved her and knew how to care for her (non-technically, things like helping her dress and use the bathroom).
So our family forwent paying for childcare, elder care, and an entire extra household of space, things, and utilities, plus we got the social benefits of having very young and old people together (grounds the young people and teaches them to be gentle while keeping the old people rooted in a community), all for the low price of inter generational living.
thats the way with asian and hispanic families
It's so staggering to remember that for a very long time in human history, something like this was the norm. Now culture often tries to cast this as some kind of weird deviation.
That sounds like a really lovely set up
It was great. I’m a younger millennial who grew up with someone in my household who remembered WWI starting (she had my mom late, and then my mom had me late), which exposed me to a lot of history that most people my age didn’t get.
She was a teenager when the depression began, and because she was the oldest of 14 kids, her parents sent her to a convent to take over caring for her; she was one of the few women of her generation to get a master’s degree; she was living at the base on Pearl Harbor when it was attacked; and she rented out a room in her house to several of the first black students at the university where she taught, because no one else would rent to them. That’s a wild life story.
Unfortunately, I didn’t think about it when I had the chance, but I really regret not recording a set of interviews with her.
and blackstone is owning EMPTY houses, not blackrock apparently. all due to airbnb, and similar services.
Multigeneration households are great if they actually plan for it. Starting a family in a house thats already servicing a full family can be difficult and many of them probably can't afford to upsize to a more reasonably sized household if needed. Multigeneration living alone still wouldn't fix the housing crisis but it could relieve some pressure and could be a more affordable option for those able to do it.
That's why I said it "can be really beneficial", because you're right, it takes intentionality and open communication to really work well.
I know that my fellow millennials have already started feeling the pinch between taking care of our kids and having to take care of our aging parents by this point. It's only going to get worse and more expensive.
"A starter home unpurchased"
When have "starter homes" been a thing in recent history?! LMAO. In a lot of places everything is a very specific "single family" size starting at like "low 400s" all the way to a million.
One would have to look for such a place "with good bones", because it's not the most profitable development type anymore, and even if they did make them, new constructions are hastily thrown together as cheaply as possible before being covered with a pretty facade.
They fall apart quick, because their primary purpose is to sell.
starter homes in 70-90s year, and only up till 2004 in my area. now its just a "luxury prices" for a mediocre starting home.
Indeed. I mean, I'm assuming most of these people are doing this involuntarily, but if we are doing real talk, the idea of the single-family unit that can be plucked up and plopped down anywhere in the country is something that is mostly in service of capitalism, not necessarily for happiness of the individual, non-atomic-family cohesion, etc.
It seems like nearly all of the culture casts anyone that doesn't leave their parents' home by the end of high school or at the end of college as being utter failures and losers, and not worthy of romantic partners, or worthy of really any respect and so on. How much of this is orchestrated is hard to really say, but Hollywood certainly doesn't help.
I think the tide is shifting on the cultural view of living at home being a failure. It’s incredibly important for the young adults in these multi-generational homes to actually act like adults - take care of the house chores without prompting, do their own laundry, live their life not as a child under their parent’s roof but as an adult sharing living space with other adults.
I wonder if Hannah Jones realizes what a cunt whore thing to say that was.
I’m thinking no.
I don't personally want to live with my parents, but I've spent the majority of my life living with flatmates or similar situations, by choice. I've always preferred it over having a place entirely to myself, makes coming home feel more like visiting friends than just returning to silence. Requires people you get along well with though..
flatmates might be different from family. because wont hear them constantly nagging you on your career choices, or why you havnt found a job 24/7. assuming your roomates are in good terms they wont be annoying. they do care if any of the flatmates flake on the rent though. i heard alot of stories where drama happens because one of them refuses to pay rent.
Well, yeah. As with all other people interactions, if the people you interact with suck it's going to have a negative impact 😅
But in a decade and a half of living with other people like this, not once has rent been an issue.
My partner and myself share a house with another couple and it’s a great arrangement for us. We’re close friends, we all give each other plenty of space, and it’s nice to have our chosen family involved in our day to day lives.
I think the most important aspect is making sure everyone has their own space they can go to get away from others. We all need our alone time!
Yeah, exactly. If I could end up in a situation like this longterm, I'd be happy.
For a while in my early 20s, I was staying with a friend of my parents because I just moved to a new city and she offered. She has a small house, as part of an enclave of about 20 houses built around a big common area, including workspaces, a massive kitchen and other amenities. They had a cooking schedule, so everyone in the 20 houses cooks at some point for the entire little community, and you just show up at dinner time for a meal if you're not cooking that day. It's super well organized and everyone seemed pretty happy with the setup.
I LOVED it. If I could achieve or find that one day I'd never leave..
I'm an introvert, I LOVE that I come home and I either have the place to myself or my fiance is the only person that could be home. Even then, sometimes I go fuck off in the garage after working in a garage all day just to have a bit to unwind. Dealing with people at work all day is so draining I couldn't imagine having to deal with more people when I get home, but introverts drain around people and extroverts charge or whatever so to each their own!
Oh, I'm an introvert too, but I also suck at being the one to ask friends to do things or go places, so its easier to just have them hanging around at home essentially. But I also have plenty of options for getting away from home, so I don't feel trapped that way
I miss living in a punk house with five other bastards. There was always something going on and when I was done being social I could just hole up in my room.
Finally have my own place after sharing various living situations for 20 years and it's glorious to come home to my tiny apartment and only have to deal with my cat.
Downside is, I no longer have friends or go out. My roommates/SOs always made friends and plans for me, so I never really developed those skills, and now I'm too old to crash DIY venues and not be That Weird Old Guy that comes to all of the shows.
I empathise and understand! I'm pretty awkward with people I don't know, so meeting new ones is a challenge to be honest.
I spent a year and a half living with my closest buddy in an amazing apartment, and it was quite honestly spectacular. Will be moving cities again after summer, and will put in effort to get a good flatmate situation going.