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Star-studded opening for Obama library in Chicago delivers implied rebuke to Trump
(www.theguardian.com)
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Why didn't they name it the Drone Strike Presidential Center?
I love how the "but her emails[sic]" crowd never breaks brand.
The "But her emails" crowd loves drone strikes on brown people though
Because Obama completely broke their brains.
And he lives, now, rent free inside all of them.
Are you saying that drone strikes didn't dramatically escalate during Obama's tenure?
Libs not down voting facts challenge : fucking massive fail, lmao.
I like calling it the Obamalisk, personally
Because his name is Barack Obama, can't you read?
I can read so much better than you, it should make you embarrassed.
I'm going to ask you to show me a graph of drone strikes under Bush and Obama and then you aren't going to reply.
It was nice chatting with you.
I'll reply, and instead ask you what Obama's acts as president have to do with the name of this building and you'll reply with more shit about how Obama being a monster. It's his foundation, it's his name. That's why.
I did this same shit with another moron last week, I know how it goes. Blocking and moving on, I just everyone else do the same.
Obama is a war criminal, he should be trialed before an international court and consequently jailed, not having libraries bear his name. It seems hard to compute for Americans especially, but really, it‘s not that complicated.
I mean the vast majority of American leaders are war criminals. Its easy to compute; rules for thee, not for me. That being said practically every western country operates under that mantra
You are right, but there‘s no viable path to shift responsibility away from the US.
Because every western country acts through capitalist forces and under US hegemony, which will enforce capitalist rule or try to kill you off. Which western country do you think plays a sovereign role here?
Apparently my other comment was too mean for the mods here. Here are the receipts. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Yeah, yeah. Add it to the fuckin pile, guy.
Also, you don't live up to your name.
It must be freeing to be so blasé about war crimes. Still disgusting though.
The name is ironic.
Please. You armchair warriors all say the same shit like your so sanctimonious. It's not going to accomplish anything. You live in the same world we all live in. But go on, make it seem like me, some random guy in the comments of a lemmy thread, had any agency in what the president did before I could even vote.
I bet we could go back and forth asking each other what we consider to be war crimes and we wouldn't agree on half of it. I get the feeling that you're not interested in actually having a discussion about war crimes, more so you're just interested on shitting on anybody but the current president. So fuck off with your 2 week old Smurf account.
I'm gonna go have fun with my family now. You keep raging at the machine.
There's that apathetic American spirit! You go enjoy your family time while your country actively destabilize the world and murders countless innocents!
His ratio of civilians to combatants looks much better than Bush's.
And it's not surprising that the raw, absolute number of drone strikes went up, seeing as it was an emerging technology at the time.
Plus, the alternative would be a full-on frontal assault, which would involve artillery, air support, and battalions of ground troops composed of fallible humans with highly destructive weaponry, followed by long-term stability operations with regular patrols.
Compared to that, drone strikes are more surgical and targeted toward military leadership, command centers, and weapons cachés. Just look up the invasions of Fallujah, Mosul, and Baghdad if you want to see war crimes and civilian casualties. All of those happened under Bush.
You forgot the alternative of getting the fuck out of the middle east and keeping to yourselves, lmao.
Obama didn't start the invasions, but if you can't see the very real consequences of abruptly and prematurely pulling out of Iraq and Afghanistan, then I'd like to introduce you to ISIS and the Taliban, because this is what happens when you botch a full-scale withdrawal of military forces.
It's not as simple as "my predecessor shouldn't have started this war, so let's just suddenly leave without having a better plan in place and doing years of stability operations to ensure the long-term success of the civilian government."
Lol.