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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

producing milk still requires killing calves

It certainly is not a requirement. They don't have to use the males born to make veal.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, it is an economic requirement. They can't compete with beef cattle for meat production, keeping them alive just makes the milk more expensive than the farmer down the road who murders his calves can sell it for.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

the vast majority of dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter, but slaughter still isn't necessary.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

How do you recoup the costs of raising a bull to full weight (which happens at a fraction of its natural lifespan) without slaughtering him? It's like saying breathing isn't necessary because you can just hold your breath.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

you can just choose not to do that

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

As in, choose not to be a dairy farmer or consume dairy products?

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

even a dairy farmer can just choose not to kill.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do you even understand why you are entertaining such ridiculous ideas? It's because you don't want to face the truth and acknowledge the consequences of your choices.

But okay, let's say a dairy could somehow operate without killing. They DON'T. You know for a fact that vulnerable individuals got murdered every time you buy dairy. So what the fuck?? What's this fantasy about murderless dairy (as if that was the only problem) of yours got to do with anything? It's a distraction from your victims.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

producing milk still requires killing calves

this is untrue. i pointed out it's untrue, and you agree. the rest of this is just an ideologically motivated screed.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sell them to beef ranchers. Make even more money and meat. 🤦‍♂️